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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    So, since we're being selfless and are only concerned with the health implications of the meager rations we're willing to allow, we reject KoolAid but would be more than happy and willing to allow orange juice, which is far more expensive but has vitamins and legitimate nutritional value. Correct?
    1) I'm not being selfless and only concerned about health implications. Though I see no reason why such monies should not be geared towards delivering healthy foods, since such makes the most economical sense

    2) My concern is one of efficiency, as with any other govt program. That money the govt spends should be done so with an eye towards delivering the most bang for it's buck

    3) Yes, I am all for Orange Juice, since it clearly fills a nutritional need.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Fair enough.

    How about if the brand name is on sale for less than the generic on a given day?
    I'm not sure why you keep trying to make this needlessly complex. Allowing brand names or not, is just as complicated as the current wic program's limits on what can be purchased or even the current limits based on snap. It's only a matter of changing what is and isn't allowed.


    Not complex at all

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Fair enough.

    How about if the brand name is on sale for less than the generic on a given day?

    When you say generic, I presume you mean non-brand name. How do you define "generic" and/or "brand name"? Often there's three versions, a brand name such as Minute Maid, a store house brand which is usually in the middle, and some almost literal no-name brand. Which category would a store's house brand fall under? Or, should I presume that when you say generic you simply mean "whatever is cheapest"?
    When I say generic I generally mean no- name brands but what ever is cheaper in your average store then that would also be acceptable.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    When I say generic I generally mean no- name brands but what ever is cheaper in your average store then that would also be acceptable.
    What about WholeFoods and other specialty stores?
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not sure why you keep trying to make this needlessly complex. Allowing brand names or not, is just as complicated as the current wic program's limits on what can be purchased or even the current limits based on snap. It's only a matter of changing what is and isn't allowed.

    Not complex at all
    I'm pointing out that your desired criteria is more complex than you want to admit.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    What about WholeFoods and other specialty stores?
    Not only that, but what about cost differences in non-specialty stores? Should they be banned from a regional grocery chain that charges more than Walmart for the same item?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I'm pointing out that your desired criteria is more complex than you want to admit.
    No it really isn't. We already structure wic in the same way

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Not only that, but what about cost differences in non-specialty stores? Should they be banned from a regional grocery chain that charges more than Walmart for the same item?
    do we currently do so now? No, so why the need to try and make this needlessly complex?

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No it really isn't. We already structure wic in the same way
    WIC isn't as petty in it's restrictions. That's where your unnecessary complexity comes in.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    There is a very easy way to limit what can and can't be bought with assistance money.

    Either make four things in any store eligible - beans, rice, meat/tofu, vegetables - and only acceot stamps at discount outlets, or provide so little money that these are the only things that can be purchased and only at discount outlets.

    Either way, the spirit of the program (nutrition) is fulfilled and no money is needlessly wasted or given to someone who did not earn something more.
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