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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Whether you accept it or not, the facts speak for themselves. With or without welfare people who live in poverty eat more poorly. You can go on thinking that they are eating ramen because they love it and hate fresh foods and secretly want to spend more money on less nutritious products if you want to.
    How does this address the point I just underlined about the distinction in heavily processed foods here, their mark-up in cost, and increase in things like unhealthy, fats sugars, and sodium?

    I just showed you are two different type of oatmeal that would both be available through current snap regulations, how one offered three times the serving for the same price, and the other being 3 times the cost, came with 12 times the sugar and 190 times the sodium. And your only response to this is ignore such facts and act as if such regulations could have no impact on the costs of such programs and health profile of their diets?


    You can talk all day about oats and rice and hot pockets. That is not being realistic. People are not going to eat oats and rice three times a day and your assertion that they should is insane.
    I never asserted such. What I asserted was that one could eat cheaper and healthier by avoiding heavily processed foods and just cited an example of oatmeal. In fact, when I cited my own diet, I included fresh fruit, vegetables, and meat. Which I tend to have with every meal.

    Fresh fruits and vegetables, real meat cost more than packaged goods.
    Based on what? Chicken can cost anywhere from 1.50-3.00lb, depending on the cut. And things like apples, carrots, bananas are exceptionally cheap all year round, which says nothing about basic frozen and canned vegetables


    I not going to keep trying to convince you otherwise. You seem to have your mind set that people eat junk food solely to waste tax payer money.
    No, they eat it because it tastes great, and takes no effort to make

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    And stores like Sam's Club and Costco that offer bulk foods don't accept SNAP.
    Yes they do.


    Food Stamps
    We currently accept SNAP cards at all Club locations, and you must be a Member to purchase items in-Club without incurring a service fee.

    SNAP cards are formerly known as Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards or food stamps.

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    We welcome cash,* checks,* debit/ATM cards,** Costco Cash Cards, Costco Credit Cards**, EBT Cards and American Express Cards.** Checks may require picture identification and approval by a supervisor or manager.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Ok, but what's wrong with KoolAid? If you buy the sugar free version it's pretty much just flavored water.
    Whats wrong with just drinking plain water?

    I already think many of the views on this are unnecessary micromanaging, but bringing down to something like this is just absurd.
    No its not.Food stamps shouldn't pay for any and everything at a grocery store.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Whats wrong with just drinking plain water?


    No its not.Food stamps shouldn't pay for any and everything at a grocery store.
    You're avoiding the question. Twice now. Nothing's "wrong" with water. Let's try a third time: What's wrong with KoolAid?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You're avoiding the question. Twice now. Nothing's "wrong" with water. Let's try a third time: What's wrong with KoolAid?
    It's an unneeded expense and fulfills absolutely no nutritional needs?

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You're avoiding the question. Twice now. Nothing's "wrong" with water. Let's try a third time: What's wrong with KoolAid?
    It is not food.It is an unnecessary expense.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Food Stamps
    We currently accept SNAP cards at all Club locations, and you must be a Member to purchase items in-Club without incurring a service fee.
    I stand corrected, but this must be a recent change; I've been in Sam's Club as recently as last year and they couldn't.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    It's an unneeded expense and fulfills absolutely no nutritional needs?
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It is not food.It is an unnecessary expense.
    So, since we're being selfless and are only concerned with the health implications of the meager rations we're willing to allow, we reject KoolAid but would be more than happy and willing to allow orange juice, which is far more expensive but has vitamins and legitimate nutritional value. Correct?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    So, since we're being selfless and are only concerned with the health implications of the meager rations we're willing to allow, we reject KoolAid but would be more than happy and willing to allow orange juice, which is far more expensive but has vitamins and legitimate nutritional value. Correct?
    As long as a it is generic orange juice I do not have a problem with it.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As long as a it is generic orange juice I do not have a problem with it.
    Fair enough.

    How about if the brand name is on sale for less than the generic on a given day?

    When you say generic, I presume you mean non-brand name. How do you define "generic" and/or "brand name"? Often there's three versions, a brand name such as Minute Maid, a store house brand which is usually in the middle, and some almost literal no-name brand. Which category would a store's house brand fall under? Or, should I presume that when you say generic you simply mean "whatever is cheapest"?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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