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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, they wouldn't. Convenience stores don't have that kind of room. Big grocery stores that do are generally not located in low income areas.

    You also need to realistically look at ingredients. Even a gallon of milk has multiple ingredients. A bag of noodles has many ingredients.
    No, you don't understand. Each community would have a "community cow" for their pure unprocessed milk. They would also be expected to make their own noodles. If they cannot buy a can of soup they sure as hell cannot have the convenience of pre-made noodles. Get thy but into a kitchen and immerse thy arms in flour as they grind their whole grains into flour to make noodles.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    People are forgetting one important thing. There is a business aspect to food stamps. Government subsidizes things like corn which makes the end junk food product a lot cheaper. Then government pays for food stamps to ensure that food corporations get fed. It's no accident that there are few restrictions on what food stamp users can buy. Most healthy, organic food is unaffordable.

    Also, private businesses can individually decide to not accept food stamps, but it would be considered government endorsement of a business to do the same thing.

    I think cigarettes, alcohol, and other luxury goods along those lines should definitely be no nos.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think it should be similar to the way the wic voucher system is. I do not know about other states but in my state WIC vouchers say what you can get and when you can get it and last I checked you must sign your name on the voucher. Also people on food stamps should not be able to buy energy drinks, soda, koolaid,junk food,microwavable dinners, name brand food and luxery food like t-bone steaks,lobster, sushi, and etc.
    I voted yes, but I am rethinking it based on some comments here.

    I think nutrition of various foods could be scored based on whatever criteria is agreed upon. We might even be able to use price to score food value. Food ought to meet or exceed that score in order to be included in the program, and scoring food value should cause most restaurant foods to be excluded.

    The criteria could evaluate calories, naturally occurring vitamins and minerals and other valuable nutritional components, and price. Such scores would be useful to everyone, so they could have the added benefit of helping non food stamp people in making better choices more easily.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Yes because the more poor you are the less healthy or natural foods you can afford. Fresh foods cost more than processed foods.
    I got that, but their still able to get enough food to BE overweight is my point.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It's a bit of a chicken-or-egg debate there. If suddenly the only way to redeem of a food stamp was to do it in exchange for those basics, would we expect consumer demand at these areas to shift?
    The shopping habits in low income areas are more driven by what's available. Most people would love to have a produce section with fresh fruits and veggies at their disposal, but doing so means either changing buses with 5 bags of groceries or getting a cab. There's no way it's practical to expect them to do that.


    So we're at the mercy of Congress at all times, and there's no point in the people demanding change?

    Let's just assume hypothetically that the issue went up for a nation-wide democratic vote. For what reason, really, would you vote no?
    I would vote no for exactly the reasons I've stated. It's unrealistic, it's bigger government, and at what point is the line drawn? Almost everything is processed in some way or another.


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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Is obesity a big issue for the country? If so, shouldn't we at least be doing something to curb it... and not be making it worse? I mean eight of the top ten poorest states are also the fattest. I'm not even sure how that happened, since you should be scratching for food at that point... (not that I want that, but you know what I mean.)
    And Michelle Obama talking about it has been soooooo popular on the right. For Christ's sake all she has to say is "Vegetables are healthy" and the noise machine goes into full attack mode about how "this is just like Communism!"

    I'd agree that we should do something about food deserts, but there's no way the GOP goes for it.


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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think it should be similar to the way the wic voucher system is. I do not know about other states but in my state WIC vouchers say what you can get and when you can get it and last I checked you must sign your name on the voucher. Also people on food stamps should not be able to buy energy drinks, soda, koolaid,junk food,microwavable dinners, name brand food and luxery food like t-bone steaks,lobster, sushi, and etc.
    What's wrong with KoolAid? Or, is only unfiltered creek water brought up in buckets acceptable for those who are beneath us?
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    What's wrong with KoolAid? Or, is only unfiltered creek water brought up in buckets acceptable for those who are beneath us?
    KoolAid won't filter water.

    But you know what is really good for you?

    Water.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    What's wrong with KoolAid? Or, is only unfiltered creek water brought up in buckets acceptable for those who are beneath us?
    Limiting what someone can and can't buy on food-stamps is not akin to thinking those on food-stamps are beneath us.The purpose of food stamps is to make sure people do not starve, not provide people with junk food, sodas and other ****.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Limiting what someone can and can't buy on food-stamps is not akin to thinking those on food-stamps are beneath us.The purpose of food stamps is to make sure people do not starve, not provide people with junk food, sodas and other ****.
    Ok, but what's wrong with KoolAid? If you buy the sugar free version it's pretty much just flavored water. I already think many of the views on this are unnecessary micromanaging, but bringing down to something like this is just absurd.
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