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Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?[W:178]

Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

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Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Anagram said:
Proving they aren't born gay doesn't necessarily prove its a choice.
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Explain.
 
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Dooble said:
Try placing your kids with the state. It sounds like Foster Care is their best shot.
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Wow. That's low. REALLY low. Of course, you know that studies have shown gay parents are equal, if not better than, than their straight counterparts in terms of parenting, right? And that's not even the main point. How dare you call out a fellow member (especially a respected member like taco) on their parenting skills when you know nothing about them. That is a shame. A huge apology is in order.
 
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Dooble said:
Actually, it won't. I'm still waiting for proof that all homosexuals are born gay. I have a drug addict niece who's trying to figure out whether she's a lesbian or not. Until irrefutable proof surfaces on that front, gay people will be getting more rights than straights. In other words, gay people are selfish and think only about what THEY want, not what the majority of the country needs -- a society free of moral decay.
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Gays Are Selfish---->Dont Think of Needs of the Country---->Country Doesn't Need Moral Decay---->Homosexuality/SSM is moral decay---->Gay People are Selfish.

I'll let you puzzle that one out.
 
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tacomancer said:
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They are my kids. I identified them as my kids... Therefore I am involved as identified by the context I used ...

My children are happy, well adjusted, and healthy and I make sure of that. Their mother loves just as fiercely as I do.

Your comments were inappropriate and you should apologize for them
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I don't know you from Adam. You can't just automatically assume that I know you're a great father. I'm gonna need you to apologize for lack of clarity, and also asking for me to apologize.
 
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Dooble said:
I don't know you from Adam. You can't just automatically assume that I know you're a great father. I'm gonna need you to apologize for lack of clarity, and also asking for me to apologize.
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What the hell is wrong with you?

Are you devoid of any sense of common decency?
 
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Sherman123 said:
Gays Are Selfish---->Dont Think of Needs of the Country---->Country Doesn't Need Moral Decay---->Homosexuality/SSM is moral decay---->Gay People are Selfish.

I'll let you puzzle that one out.
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The only thing that's puzzling is the gay marriage agenda.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

tacomancer said:
What the hell is wrong with you?

Are you devoid of any sense of common decency?
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That's not an apology.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Dooble said:
Try placing your kids with the state. It sounds like Foster Care is their best shot.
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You're a really bad person. Resulting to insults like this instead of refuting his points is not only a sure fire sign that you've lost, but that you're also pretty insecure.
 
Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Dooble said:
That's not an apology.
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You are damn right it's not an apology.

I no longer wish to discuss this. If you are looking loft some sort of victory, you can have it.

I know what's right and allowing something like you to affect my emotional state is beneath me.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
You're a really bad person. Resulting to insults like this instead of refuting his points is not only a sure fire sign that you've lost, but that you're also pretty insecure.
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Keep reading. Try and keep up.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Dooble said:
Keep reading. Try and keep up.
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Oh I saw what happened. You decided you were going to abandon your failed attempts to prove your point, and to just throw insults at him like a petulant child instead.
 
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Dooble said:
Sure it does. It proves gay people have nothing to do with Loving v Virginia. It proves homosexuality is a choice. It proves homosexuals are so self absorbed that they don't care about anything outside of their own lives. Gay marriage is a pervert's experiment; a whimsical fancy. It's a farce, and it needs to be stopped.
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IT doesn't matter. Marrying someone of a different race is a choice. No one is born with an attraction to only a different race. So yes it does relate to Loving V Virginia.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

tacomancer said:
You are damn right it's not an apology.

I no longer wish to discuss this. If you are looking loft some sort of victory, you can have it.

I know what's right and allowing something like you to affect my emotional state is beneath me.
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I don't need victories. I need liberals to stop attacking people that don't agree with them.
 
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wolfsgirl said:
IT doesn't matter. Marrying someone of a different race is a choice. No one is born with an attraction to only a different race. So yes it does relate to Loving V Virginia.
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Wrong. The issue is comparing gay behavior to skin tone. Gay behavior is a choice. Skin tone is not. Stop square pegging the circle.
 
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Dooble said:
Wrong. The issue is comparing gay behavior to skin tone. Gay behavior is a choice. Skin tone is not. Stop square pegging the circle.
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No, it's not. Marrying ANYONE is a choice. Mr Loving did not have to marry someone of a different race, he chose to. People are not born with an attraction to a particular race.
My attraction to women is no less relevant in marriage than Mr' Lovings attraction to someone of a different race. Both were against the law. He could have chosen to marry someone of the same race, I can choose to marry someone of the opposite sex, but neither would be marrying someone we are attracted to. Gender discrimination when it comes to laws is just as valid as racial discrimination.
 
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wolfsgirl said:
No, it's not. Marrying ANYONE is a choice.
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And?

wolfsgirl said:
Mr Loving did not have to marry someone of a different race, he chose to.
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So? You're arguing the wrong kind of choice.

wolfsgirl said:
People are not born with an attraction to a particular race.
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Are you sure? I'd like to see some data on that.

wolfsgirl said:
My attraction to women is no less relevant in marriage than Mr' Lovings attraction to someone of a different race.
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Wrong. Marriage has a tradition in this country, and it's being attacked. There is zero valid reason why homosexuals should be married.

wolfsgirl said:
Both were against the law. He could have chosen to marry someone of the same race, I can choose to marry someone of the opposite sex, but neither would be marrying someone we are attracted to.
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Wrong again. Gay marriage is a violation of traditional marriage. There is absolutely zero value to what you are fighting for.

wolfsgirl said:
Gender discrimination when it comes to laws is just as valid as racial discrimination.
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This isn't gender discrimination. It's opposing a perversion to one of the most sacred institutions that we have. Go live together. That's your choice. Just keep your moral decay out of marriage. This is one issue that will not be overlooked. Trust me on this.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Dooble said:
Wrong. The issue is comparing gay behavior to skin tone. Gay behavior is a choice. Skin tone is not. Stop square pegging the circle.
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You care to evidence the first claim? Not really a good analogy either, as skin tone can change via choice, i.e. tanning.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Dooble said:
Sure it does. It proves gay people have nothing to do with Loving v Virginia. It proves homosexuality is a choice. It proves homosexuals are so self absorbed that they don't care about anything outside of their own lives. Gay marriage is a pervert's experiment; a whimsical fancy. It's a farce, and it needs to be stopped.
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Interesting. And has the issue of being born gay ever been used in court?
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Anagram said:
Not everything about you that isn't genetic is chosen.
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Expand on that please. Are we back to Flip Wilson now (the devil made me do it!)?
 
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zgoldsmith23 said:
You care to evidence the first claim?
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Happy to:

"This case presents a constitutional question never addressed by this Court: whether a statutory scheme adopted by the State of Virginia to prevent marriages between persons solely on the basis of racial classificationsviolates the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment."

Loving v. Virginia | LII / Legal Information Institute
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Who cares why someone is gay. The simple fact is that they are human and deserve basic human rights such as being able to marry the person they love.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

zgoldsmith23 said:
You care to evidence the first claim? Not really a good analogy either, as skin tone can change via choice, i.e. tanning.
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Strictly speaking his exact words are correct - in fact all voluntary human sexual behavior is chosen. Attraction, perhaps so, perhaps not, but behavior, certainly.
 
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Cardinal said:
Interesting. And has the issue of being born gay ever been used in court?
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It's part of the bigger argument.
 
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