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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    makes little difference, if they aren't recognized in Utah, other states can reject on that same premise and probably will
    You mean if those 1300 couples for some reason moved to another bigoted state? Correct, until those bans are thrown out as well.

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    1.)not sure what belife is, going with that, the other thread shows them to be invalid
    3 they are, case closed
    1.) its something i never posted to you on this
    2.) nope it proved your posts wrong and that you posted a lie just like now
    3.) wrong again we have facts that prove you wrong and you got nothing but nu-huh, see below for the facts that destroy your lies

    Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages01/10/14 02:29 PM

    The legal status of same-sex married couples in Utah has become a little murky in recent days. Attorney General Eric Holder tried to bring some clarity to the issue this afternoon.

    Last month, a federal court struck down Utah’s ban on marriage equality, immediately opening the door to equal-marriage rights statewide. Roughly 1,300 couples took advantage of the opportunity and tied the legally recognized knot.
    The U.S. Supreme Court, however, issued a stay this week, reinstating Utah’s ban while the appeals process unfolds. And as Adam Serwer explained, state officials “took the additional step of telling the couples who were married in the meantime that, in the eyes of the state of Utah, while the litigation is ongoing, those marriages don’t count.”

    AG Holder offered a response today, letting those same couples know that as far as the federal government is concerned, their marriages do count. For those who can’t watch clips online, he said in a new video:

    “Last June, the Supreme Court issued a landmark decision – in United States v. Windsor – holding that Americans in same-sex marriages are entitled to equal protection and equal treatment under the law. This ruling marked a historic step toward equality for all American families. And since the day it was handed down, the Department of Justice has been working tirelessly to implement it in both letter and spirit – moving to extend – federal benefits to married same-sex couples as swiftly and smoothly as possible.

    “Recently, an administrative step by the court has cast doubt on same-sex marriages that have been performed in the state of Utah. And the governor has announced that the state will not recognize these marriages pending additional court action.[/FONT]

    “In the meantime, I am confirming today that, for purposes of federal law, these marriages will be recognized as lawful and considered eligible for all relevant federal benefits on the same terms as other same-sex marriages. These families should not be asked to endure uncertainty regarding their status as the litigation unfolds. In the days ahead, we will continue to coordinate across the federal government to ensure the timely provision of every federal benefit to which Utah couples and couples throughout the country are entitled – regardless of whether they in same-sex or opposite-sex marriages. And we will continue to provide additional information as soon as it becomes available.
    marriages are valid and legal

    as usual, your post loses and facts win wrong

    until you have ONE single fact that you can present nothing more will be said
    lol, game over
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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    You mean if those 1300 couples for some reason moved to another bigoted state? Correct, until those bans are thrown out as well.
    bigots and sexual preference are asinine comparisons. the are invalid and I think it is hilarious that those idiots rushed to alter like kids robbing a candy store.

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) its something i never posted to you on this
    2.) nope it proved your posts wrong and that you posted a lie just like now
    3.) wrong again we have facts that prove you wrong and you got nothing but nu-huh, see below for the facts that destroy your lies



    marriages are valid and legal

    as usual, your post loses and facts win wrong

    until you have ONE single fact that you can present nothing more will be said
    lol, game over
    the are invalid in the eyes of the state where performed, meaning regardles of the beliefs of others, the state invalidated them. If your drivers license is revoked or invalid in your home state it is not valid once you leave

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    bigots and sexual preference are asinine comparisons. the are invalid and I think it is hilarious that those idiots rushed to alter like kids robbing a candy store.
    bigotry has to do with intolerance, something you should be well versed in

    those couples now have 1000+ rights they did not, because they rushed to marry while they could. Very wise decision

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    bigotry has to do with intolerance, something you should be well versed in

    those couples now have 1000+ rights they did not, because they rushed to marry while they could. Very wise decision
    yeah and not worth the paper they are written on, if it were their driver's licenses, they would be worthless as well

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    bigotry has to do with intolerance, something you should be well versed in

    those couples now have 1000+ rights they did not, because they rushed to marry while they could. Very wise decision
    correct its awesome the the law and rights work with them while their state is in limbo, until the state works it out their marriages are 100% legal and get all the fed privileges, im glad the FED clear this fact up for people confused including the state and the state said they will also be granting them all FED rights that they happen to process.
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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    yeah and not worth the paper they are written on, if it were their driver's licenses, they would be worthless as well
    you know what's hilarious about outcomes like this is it proves "states' rights" don't exist. The fed will always dominate. 1000 rights vs state income tax, gee let me weigh which matters more.

    Maybe utah should secede over this and watch itself fall into 3rd world status within a year

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    1.)you know what's hilarious about outcomes like this is it proves "states' rights" don't exist. The fed will always dominate. 1000 rights vs state income tax, gee let me weigh which matters more.

    2.)Maybe utah should secede over this and watch itself fall into 3rd world status within a year
    1.) well the thing that SOME people miss is state rights are intact, the state tried to overstep its rights hence the law suit and ruling thats whats hilarious.
    2.) this is my favorite nonsensical irrational talk, secession over the fed protecting equal rights, its one of the most mentally retarded idea out there

    not to mention no state will ever actually do it and if it happens, they just get taken over and those people can leave the county if they wish, russia might make them happy
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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    I am one of three.
    We do not have that high a level of people, as long as we have conservatives, the homosexual will never be "equal"...
    Never...well, give it 100 years....time heals all wounds...

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