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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That last disproves your attempt in the first part. What you're looking for is the effect of environment. Yes, both environment and genetics have influence upon our choices. They are still our choices.



    Once again here you are talking about attraction. The issue was behavior, not attraction. In fact you prove my point. These people mentioned are attracted to the same sex but choose not to act on it (albeit because of some pretty terrible consequences).
    What Dooble mentioned, and I was arguing against was homosexuality which is attraction and not behavior. I assumed you were arguing the same thing, I'm sorry for misinterpreting your post.
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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    There is no definite meaning for the term.

    My view of rights is that they are socially defined.
    Which would mean that there is no right to marry same sex for certainly the bulk of society defines marriage as one man/one woman.

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Which would mean that there is no right to marry same sex for certainly the bulk of society defines marriage as one man/one woman.
    In 20 states they have that right. As well as in a lot of Europe.

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    In 20 states they have that right. As well as in a lot of Europe.
    As well as the fact that the majority of people in Europe and here believe in it, even if they have not yet implemented it in all areas.
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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    In 20 states they have that right. As well as in a lot of Europe.
    However, in most of those US cases what you're calling a right was not socially defined as a right, just the opposite in fact. So I guess you've abandoned your "socially defined" argument.

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    What Dooble mentioned, and I was arguing against was homosexuality which is attraction and not behavior. I assumed you were arguing the same thing, I'm sorry for misinterpreting your post.
    Np problem, that's why I tried to make it clear his words were technically correct.

    Originally Posted by Dooble
    Wrong. The issue is comparing gay behavior to skin tone. Gay behavior is a choice. Skin tone is not. Stop square pegging the circle.

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Np problem, that's why I tried to make it clear his words were technically correct.
    In that case yes.

    In this case I believe he was referring to the attraction itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Sure it does. It proves gay people have nothing to do with Loving v Virginia. It proves homosexuality is a choice. It proves homosexuals are so self absorbed that they don't care about anything outside of their own lives. Gay marriage is a pervert's experiment; a whimsical fancy. It's a farce, and it needs to be stopped.
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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    However, in most of those US cases what you're calling a right was not socially defined as a right, just the opposite in fact. So I guess you've abandoned your "socially defined" argument.
    Socially, people don't always agree. So some sort of arbitration and codification is necessary. Laws is one such mechanism.

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Sure it does. It proves gay people have nothing to do with Loving v Virginia. It proves homosexuality is a choice. It proves homosexuals are so self absorbed that they don't care about anything outside of their own lives. Gay marriage is a pervert's experiment; a whimsical fancy. It's a farce, and it needs to be stopped.
    nope sexual orientation doesnt work that way, if homosexuality is a choice so id heterosexuality, it cant work any other way lol

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    Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    The only thing that's puzzling is the gay marriage agenda.
    please do tell what is factually the agenda, cant wait to read this entertainment
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