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What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?


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I never claimed I was, and I'm not the one screaming for blood either.
No, that would be those lovely Jihadists you're so fond of.
 
Hey lady, this is not the place for personal attacks. I suggest you take your meds and chill out.
You know the first week I was on DP it was you that got me an infraction because of your baiting. Well in a few short weeks I've seen how you operate. And all I got to add is while you bait then you add things like "chill out" or "stop making it personal" when you were behind making it so...or "remain on topic" when you were the one that instigated the "off topic discussion" Stick a sock in it sugar.
 
I couldn't agree more. If you're going to fight a war, you should go balls to wall and minimize YOUR casualties. That is how you win wars. None of this red tape and hand-tying that they seem to do with our military.

The red rape exists for a reason. It seems that people get so lost in tribal rivalry that they forget there is a purpose behind our troops being in those countries. We are trying to re-engineer their society to suit us better. If reckless behavior undermines the willingness of those populations to cooperate with us, then there was little point to launching the campaign to begin with.
 
Due process.

It has been long enough...those that are being held without sufficient evidence, release them immediately. If their original countries won't take them, find a decent one that will.

Those that have sufficient evidence against them, try them NOW and (if convicted) incarcerate them in America.

Then close this pathetic chapter in American history.
 
apples and oranges. Start a thread on the drones. This one is about Gitmo. But, if you insist, I say letting them all go and droning the ones we don't trust is just fine.

Now tell me who are the ones that you don't trust? I don't trust any of them. Period.
 
I'm sensing a bit of irritation in your tone with me. I have no interest in fighting with you vesper. I said my position and I stand by it. I find the death penalty is unwise for the people to support for the very reason that the state is killing people for actions it finds wrong. I'm sorry, but I can not support that.
I don't have any interest in fighting with you either Henrin. In fact I find myself in agreement with you on many issues. Just not this one.. :peace
 
Not so, apparently, since I've been rejoined in debate to that effect. The quality of your bumbling 'analyses' are commensurate with your facility for observation, it seems.

Please don't make some pretence of skill where all you offer is undeserved clemency for the sake of scoring moral points. Even a semblance of accolade is more than you're entitled to, trust me.

Ah, yes.
I'll resist the urge to do a line-by-line reply to your post, much as I love phrases like 'undeserved clemency for the sake of scoring moral points' ' semblance of accolade' and 'rejoined in debate'.
I'll just say that you need to think more. Not just think that some words sound good because that guy always sounded good before. Think (it won't hurt for long).
 
The red rape exists for a reason. It seems that people get so lost in tribal rivalry that they forget there is a purpose behind our troops being in those countries. We are trying to re-engineer their society to suit us better. If reckless behavior undermines the willingness of those populations to cooperate with us, then there was little point to launching the campaign to begin with.
Hence why I blame Rummy for screwing it all up. We had a chance to engineer that place to suit us. But, the Bush Admin refused to work with what we had and instead tried to shoehorn Iraq into some box that did not exist. Now it's a mess.

Gitmo is a symptom of that same thing just from another theater.
 
Ah, yes.
I'll resist the urge to do a line-by-line reply to your post, much as I love phrases like 'undeserved clemency for the sake of scoring moral points' ' semblance of accolade' and 'rejoined in debate'.
I'll just say that you need to think more. Not just think that some words sound good because that guy always sounded good before. Think (it won't hurt for long).
I'm sorry that functional literacy provokes your insecurities. It could be that, having been roundly trounced as per your 'content', your attention now strays to presentation.

I'll meet you halfway, dude, but I won't carry you. I'm not here to make your case for you. Once you discover some more cogent vehicle of expression than telling me I'm stupid, you might be relevant.

Here's to that unlikely event. *raises a glass*
 
What about that poor German guy who ended up there because he looked a bit like and had a similar name to a terrorist? Should he be shot?
Of course. He's German.
 
Hence why I blame Rummy for screwing it all up. We had a chance to engineer that place to suit us. But, the Bush Admin refused to work with what we had and instead tried to shoehorn Iraq into some box that did not exist. Now it's a mess.

Gitmo is a symptom of that same thing just from another theater.
You are so full of *(((*Y that I don't know where to begin. Did you forget that Bush went to Congress with "said intelligence" and all of the Democrat party agreed including Hillary a Senator at the time and John F-ing Kerry that we should invade Iraq on the intelligence we had at the time? Yet you blame Rumsfield? Cripe sakes you need a reality check.
 
I will never understand why people think that lowering themselves to the level of their enemy makes them the bigger man. If anything it makes them just as bad as their enemies.
It's not a matter of lowering or elevating. It's a matter of surviving. I prefer to eliminate the enemy before they eliminate me. They've sworn to do their best. I'm simply advocating we do our best to avoid the end they would prefer.
 
What about that poor German guy who ended up there because he looked a bit like and had a similar name to a terrorist? Should he be shot?
There are some innocent people being held. We know who they are. Hell, release them all as long as you are willing to answer for what they do after they are released. I am not willing to do the same.
 
You are so full of *(((*Y that I don't know where to begin. Did you forget that Bush went to Congress with "said intelligence" and all of the Democrat party agreed including Hillary a Senator at the time and John F-ing Kerry that we should invade Iraq on the intelligence we had at the time? Yet you blame Rumsfield? Cripe sakes you need a reality check.

Some in Congress have problems with remembering things they do. Fortunately those of us not in Congress don't! :mrgreen: Those impassioned speeches in Congress in favor of invading Iraq are still very prominent in our memory banks, like it or not.

Greetings, vesper. :2wave:
 
Some in Congress have problems with remembering things they do. Fortunately those of us not in Congress don't! :mrgreen: Those impassioned speeches in Congress in favor of invading Iraq are still very prominent in our memory banks, like it or not.

Greetings, vesper. :2wave:
Yes Ms.P they're certainly are in the memory banks of those paying attention. Unfortunately there are many in society who are not.
 
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There are some innocent people being held. We know who they are. Hell, release them all as long as you are willing to answer for what they do after they are released. I am not willing to do the same.

Genesis 18:26 'So the LORD said, "If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare the whole place on their account."'

Never let your fear outweigh your morality.
 
There are some innocent people being held. We know who they are. Hell, release them all as long as you are willing to answer for what they do after they are released. I am not willing to do the same.

So it's better to keep innocent people locked up indefinitely just in case they might retaliate if they are released?

What a cowardly thing to believe.
 
Genesis 18:26 'So the LORD said, "If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare the whole place on their account."'

Never let your fear outweigh your morality.
It's immoral to let murderers murder.
 
Yes Ms.P they're certainly are in the memory banks of those paying attention. Unfortunately there are many in society who are not.

My take on this? Hillary might actually be planning on running for POTUS again, in spite of her denials, and this is an attempt to disassociate herself from potential problems. I've been wrong before, though, so this won't be a first. However, reality is still reality no matter how much it is danced around, so I am confident she will have an explanation ready, just in case, because I am certain those speeches will be aired again and again, so those that don't know now... certainly will in the future!
 
It's not a matter of lowering or elevating. It's a matter of surviving. I prefer to eliminate the enemy before they eliminate me. They've sworn to do their best. I'm simply advocating we do our best to avoid the end they would prefer.

When I was younger I advocated your position. I'm older now and I can't remember why I ever agreed with it. What I do know is that a protector of men that has the power to kill men unilaterally is no protector of anyone. They're just another mindless killer of men and a threat to all mankind.
 
So it's better to keep innocent people locked up indefinitely just in case they might retaliate if they are released?

What a cowardly thing to believe.
Actually, I have no idea how many are innocent. Perhaps you do. Now, if you want to discuss what's cowardly, talk to the man who said he was going to take care of the issue 5 years ago, and has done nothing. It's a sticky problem. Too sticky for the president. Nobody wants innocents held, but the problem has been allowed to linger for far too long. If you think they all deserve trials, then I suppose it would be fine for them to be conducted "where you are now".
 
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