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No, that would be those lovely Jihadists you're so fond of.I never claimed I was, and I'm not the one screaming for blood either.
No, that would be those lovely Jihadists you're so fond of.I never claimed I was, and I'm not the one screaming for blood either.
You know the first week I was on DP it was you that got me an infraction because of your baiting. Well in a few short weeks I've seen how you operate. And all I got to add is while you bait then you add things like "chill out" or "stop making it personal" when you were behind making it so...or "remain on topic" when you were the one that instigated the "off topic discussion" Stick a sock in it sugar.Hey lady, this is not the place for personal attacks. I suggest you take your meds and chill out.
I couldn't agree more. If you're going to fight a war, you should go balls to wall and minimize YOUR casualties. That is how you win wars. None of this red tape and hand-tying that they seem to do with our military.
apples and oranges. Start a thread on the drones. This one is about Gitmo. But, if you insist, I say letting them all go and droning the ones we don't trust is just fine.
I don't have any interest in fighting with you either Henrin. In fact I find myself in agreement with you on many issues. Just not this one.. eaceI'm sensing a bit of irritation in your tone with me. I have no interest in fighting with you vesper. I said my position and I stand by it. I find the death penalty is unwise for the people to support for the very reason that the state is killing people for actions it finds wrong. I'm sorry, but I can not support that.
86 of the 160 have been cleared for release. That means they are no threat to anyone.No tell me who are the ones that you don't trust? I don't trust any of them. Period.
Not so, apparently, since I've been rejoined in debate to that effect. The quality of your bumbling 'analyses' are commensurate with your facility for observation, it seems.
Please don't make some pretence of skill where all you offer is undeserved clemency for the sake of scoring moral points. Even a semblance of accolade is more than you're entitled to, trust me.
Shoot them.
Hence why I blame Rummy for screwing it all up. We had a chance to engineer that place to suit us. But, the Bush Admin refused to work with what we had and instead tried to shoehorn Iraq into some box that did not exist. Now it's a mess.The red rape exists for a reason. It seems that people get so lost in tribal rivalry that they forget there is a purpose behind our troops being in those countries. We are trying to re-engineer their society to suit us better. If reckless behavior undermines the willingness of those populations to cooperate with us, then there was little point to launching the campaign to begin with.
I'm sorry that functional literacy provokes your insecurities. It could be that, having been roundly trounced as per your 'content', your attention now strays to presentation.Ah, yes.
I'll resist the urge to do a line-by-line reply to your post, much as I love phrases like 'undeserved clemency for the sake of scoring moral points' ' semblance of accolade' and 'rejoined in debate'.
I'll just say that you need to think more. Not just think that some words sound good because that guy always sounded good before. Think (it won't hurt for long).
Of course. He's German.What about that poor German guy who ended up there because he looked a bit like and had a similar name to a terrorist? Should he be shot?
I'm not a blood thirsty individual. Just a realist.even the ones who weren't guilty probably want to kill Americans now after being detained unjustly for years
You are so full of *(((*Y that I don't know where to begin. Did you forget that Bush went to Congress with "said intelligence" and all of the Democrat party agreed including Hillary a Senator at the time and John F-ing Kerry that we should invade Iraq on the intelligence we had at the time? Yet you blame Rumsfield? Cripe sakes you need a reality check.Hence why I blame Rummy for screwing it all up. We had a chance to engineer that place to suit us. But, the Bush Admin refused to work with what we had and instead tried to shoehorn Iraq into some box that did not exist. Now it's a mess.
Gitmo is a symptom of that same thing just from another theater.
It's not a matter of lowering or elevating. It's a matter of surviving. I prefer to eliminate the enemy before they eliminate me. They've sworn to do their best. I'm simply advocating we do our best to avoid the end they would prefer.I will never understand why people think that lowering themselves to the level of their enemy makes them the bigger man. If anything it makes them just as bad as their enemies.
There are some innocent people being held. We know who they are. Hell, release them all as long as you are willing to answer for what they do after they are released. I am not willing to do the same.What about that poor German guy who ended up there because he looked a bit like and had a similar name to a terrorist? Should he be shot?
You are so full of *(((*Y that I don't know where to begin. Did you forget that Bush went to Congress with "said intelligence" and all of the Democrat party agreed including Hillary a Senator at the time and John F-ing Kerry that we should invade Iraq on the intelligence we had at the time? Yet you blame Rumsfield? Cripe sakes you need a reality check.
Yes Ms.P they're certainly are in the memory banks of those paying attention. Unfortunately there are many in society who are not.Some in Congress have problems with remembering things they do. Fortunately those of us not in Congress don't! :mrgreen: Those impassioned speeches in Congress in favor of invading Iraq are still very prominent in our memory banks, like it or not.
Greetings, vesper. :2wave:
There are some innocent people being held. We know who they are. Hell, release them all as long as you are willing to answer for what they do after they are released. I am not willing to do the same.
There are some innocent people being held. We know who they are. Hell, release them all as long as you are willing to answer for what they do after they are released. I am not willing to do the same.
It's immoral to let murderers murder.Genesis 18:26 'So the LORD said, "If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare the whole place on their account."'
Never let your fear outweigh your morality.
Yes Ms.P they're certainly are in the memory banks of those paying attention. Unfortunately there are many in society who are not.
It's not a matter of lowering or elevating. It's a matter of surviving. I prefer to eliminate the enemy before they eliminate me. They've sworn to do their best. I'm simply advocating we do our best to avoid the end they would prefer.
It's immoral to let murderers murder.
Actually, I have no idea how many are innocent. Perhaps you do. Now, if you want to discuss what's cowardly, talk to the man who said he was going to take care of the issue 5 years ago, and has done nothing. It's a sticky problem. Too sticky for the president. Nobody wants innocents held, but the problem has been allowed to linger for far too long. If you think they all deserve trials, then I suppose it would be fine for them to be conducted "where you are now".So it's better to keep innocent people locked up indefinitely just in case they might retaliate if they are released?
What a cowardly thing to believe.