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What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

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POWs stay detained until the war they are from are over.
 
ChrisL said:
Since when does wanting to give people a fair trial being a bleeding heart? You can't just execute innocent people. What's the hurry anyway? They've already been there for years and years. What they've been doing all this time when there could have been trials is anyone's guess. Obviously they have no evidence.
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I've previously made it quite clear that I believe any guilt should be ascertained prior to judgement.
 
humbolt said:
Okay. Trial first. Then shoot them. If given a chance, these people would kill you with glee for no particular reason other than you aren't them.
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I will never understand why people think that lowering themselves to the level of their enemy makes them the bigger man. If anything it makes them just as bad as their enemies.
 
Grand Mal said:
How are they terrorists? Would you resist an invasion of your country?
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And why did that invasion to their country occur? Was it after they sent their own to kill almost 3000 of ours at the Would Trade Center? To retaliate to such a thing is fair and just. In those countries of the terrorists there were celebrations breaking out in the streets when they saw the death and destruction of thousands of Americans thanks to one of their own. These prisoners at GITMO are there because they helped with this destruction or abetted in promoting it. I'm am really tired of the happy horse **** rhetoric like yours that promotes this thinking that these animals deserve any special treatment. 9/11 was an attack on capitalism plain and simple. The pillars of fanatic Islam are rooted in socialism/communism.
 
NoC_T said:
I've previously made it quite clear that I believe any guilt should be ascertained prior to judgement.
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Well, I'm against the death penalty, so I have to disagree. If we kill them, what makes us any better than them?
 
ChrisL said:
Well, I'm against the death penalty, so I have to disagree. If we kill them, what makes us any better than them?
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What makes us any more secure if we simply allow it to continue unabated and indefinitely? I understand it's an issue of moral relativism but again, I'd point out that pious platitudes go no way towards addressing crises as they unfold.
 
Henrin said:
I will never understand why people think that lowering themselves to the level of their enemy makes them the bigger man. If anything it makes them just as bad as their enemies.
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Well sugar with your mentality here's hoping they don't wipe out and destroy you next. When dealing with an enemy you have to get to their level in order to be in a position to stop the carnage.
 
NoC_T said:
What makes us any more secure if we simply allow it to continue unabated and indefinitely? I understand it's an issue of moral relativism but again, I'd point out that pious platitudes go no way towards addressing crises as they unfold.
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Why do we HAVE to kill them? Why not just lock them away?
 
vesper said:
Well sugar with your mentality here's hoping they don't wipe out and destroy you next. When dealing with an enemy you have to get to their level in order to be in a position to stop the carnage.
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The very same level they set for us to respond to, I hasten to add. Beheadings and hijacked aircraft are hardly signatures of Western conduct.
 
NoC_T said:
I refer you to my earlier post.

On the off chance that no one ever informed you thus, your gushing fount of emotion would inspire no reciprocity in these animals. It's your call. You can continue to chafe beneath the weight of an assumed identity or you can wake the **** up.
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Well...just because they are scum does not mean we have to become it ourselves. If we're really as big and bad as we pretend, we can afford to cut these few people loose. What are you afraid of...


Shadows?
 
Maybe we should define "war". Apparently, its definition has been expanded over the last few decades, and become more rhetorical.

Are we "at war" with the "war on terror"? Literally, or rhetorically?

War used to be a declared state of aggression against another country. Now, we have the "war on terror", the "war on drugs", the "war on women", the "war on Christmas", ad nauseum.

Just because we spew forth the "war" rhetoric doesn't mean we really are at war. Hence, the standard rules regarding holding prisoners until the war is over do not apply. There is no war, in the correct and legal definition. It's just rhetoric to get the easily-led to fall into line and buy into things that they shouldn't buy into.
 
calamity said:
A perfect example of proving we are not who we say we are. Killing innocent people---no problem.
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Why kill the enemy suddenly become a problem? Those who comprise the camp, never served in the Afghanistan military and never fought with our army face to face. They are bandits- mercenaries, who are not subject to a court-martial and are not subjects of the Geneva convention. Kill them.
 
Born Free said:
Innocent people have been killed in every war the US has engaged. And is still going on today with Obama's drones killing innocent people and killing without a trial. In fact Obama kills them so he does not have to put them in Club Getmo.
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And, that really sucks, but it's still better than killing defenseless people who are incarcerated.
 
ChrisL said:
Why do we HAVE to kill them? Why not just lock them away?
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Why must we let them live after they've casually dispensed with such high-mindedness? In order that we should satisfy some misplaced, self-congratulatory ideal that our enemies don't share, while giving them the green light for further atrocities?
 
loader said:
Why kill the enemy suddenly become a problem? Those who comprise the camp, never served in the Afghanistan military and never fought with our army face to face. They are bandits- mercenaries, who are not subject to a court-martial and are not subjects of the Geneva convention. Kill them.
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They haven't even been proven to be "the enemy."

At this point, let them go. What can they do to us?
 
NoC_T said:
The very same level they set for us to respond to, I hasten to add. Beheadings and hijacked aircraft are hardly signatures of Western conduct.
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Yet the "double standards" among many among us see us as the villain . Every time I engage in such BS it makes me want to reach for the antacids.
 
NoC_T said:
Why must we let them live after they've casually dispensed with such high-mindedness? In order that we should satisfy some misplaced, self-congratulatory ideal that our enemies don't share, while giving them the green light for further atrocities?
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Why must we let them live? Wow!

The reason why is because we don't have to kill them.
 
vesper said:
Well sugar with your mentality here's hoping they don't wipe out and destroy you next. When dealing with an enemy you have to get to their level in order to be in a position to stop the carnage.
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We are dealing with people that are sitting in cells that we don't even know if they are guilty or not. If guilty they should be treated like anyone else that is guilty of a crime, and since I don't believe the state should have the power to kill people for crimes, I can not agree with them killing anyone in Gitmo either.
 
NoC_T said:
The very same level they set for us to respond to, I hasten to add. Beheadings and hijacked aircraft are hardly signatures of Western conduct.
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No, we bomb people from above in unmanned drones. At least they have the balls to put their own lives on the line.
 
calamity said:
Well...just because they are scum does not mean we have to become it ourselves. If we're really as big and bad as we pretend, we can afford to cut these few people loose. What are you afraid of...


Shadows?
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No fear. Simply prudence in the face of the same harsh realities you're seemingly more comfortable ignoring. It's interesting that you seek to substantiate your position on the basis of what you consider to be acceptable losses.

Are you afraid that, in placing the needs of the many before your achey breaky heart, your apologist pat on the back won't seem quite so deserved?
 
vesper said:
Yet the "double standards" among many among us see us as the villain . Every time I engage in such BS it makes me want to reach for the antacids.
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I prefer mockery. :lol:
 
calamity said:
They haven't even been proven to be "the enemy."

At this point, let them go. What can they do to us?
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Unlike you I was in Afghanistan. They just would cut your head off. Without trial
 
ChrisL said:
It doesn't really matter what you THINK. You have to prove that they are guilty of something. Being accused is different than being guilty, as has been proven on numerous, numerous occasions. :roll:
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They were captured in a war zone, out of uniform hence under the Geneva conventions they can be terminated at will. I say terminate them. ALL of them. If we capture more extract what information we can by whatever methods useful and then dispose of the jihadists corpses in the most un-Muslim way we can, with absolutely NO respect for them or theirs.
 
ChrisL said:
Why must we let them live? Wow!

The reason why is because we don't have to kill them.
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Again, I believe that in having jettisoned such idealism, their life is forfeit.
 
TurtleDude said:
until there is a trial, I cannot tell
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No need for one never has been. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sucks to be them.
 
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