View Poll Results: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

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  • Move them to US facilities and try them.

    17 30.91%
  • Continue to detain then indefinitely.

    8 14.55%
  • Something else.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The moralist?
    The Man in the Arena quote.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    They didn't. Though it is typical of someone who has no personal experience with the service that they might think so.

    However, if you can demonstrate any Administration use of the metric of per barrel or per stock pricing as an indicator of the success of the effort in Iraq, I would urge you not just to share it here, but to get it as quickly as possible to the New York Times, the Washington Post, and every other major media source you can. Apparently you have figured out a new angle that no one has clued into before.

    That. Or you are making it up and have no sourcing whatsoever to support your ridiculous claim.



    Not for the Bush Administration it wasn't. Not only was it disastrous, they very clearly did not expect it and did not plan very well for it at all.
    Like I said, I really don't give a crap since I have no dog in that fight. It's just my opinion that our soldiers died to get a lot of rich people richer...and, a quick in and out in Iraq would not have achieved that.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Like I said, I really don't give a crap since I have no dog in that fight. It's just my opinion that our soldiers died to get a lot of rich people richer...and, a quick in and out in Iraq would not have achieved that.
    Ah. Well it is my opinion that your claim that the Bush Administration (which had many deep flaws in its Iraq policy) scored victory by a metric of oil prices or stock prices is unverifiable petulance posing as cynicism. Which is why no credible decision-making study of the Bush Administration has come up with it.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Ah. Well it is my opinion that your claim that the Bush Administration (which had many deep flaws in its Iraq policy) scored victory by a metric of oil prices or stock prices is unverifiable petulance posing as cynicism. Which is why no credible decision-making study of the Bush Administration has come up with it.
    No argument. As stated it is purely my opinion, and perhaps a cynical one at that.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I wish you would debate at all rather than try to obfuscate, spin, and weasel your way out of the meaning of your words. Trying to get you to say or defend anything is like trying to nail jello to the wall.



    Okay. So all you had to say was that. Why couldn't you have done that pages ago, when I first asked?

    So how do you deal with the fact that whether or not a means is immoral is often determined by the end under pursuit?
    It's because you're dishonest in your approach. You leave the actual issue to fain something that doesn't compare. You pretend to not understand what is clear.

    And while you like to believe that you can get a just end through immoral acts, the fact is it damages us all to travel that route. Making excuses for immorality, brutality, is itself unseemly.

    But that's the point. If the ends justify the means, all evil is justified. Pick your villain, because they all use this Sophist method if justification.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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