Boo Radley
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Wait - so are you now arguing that the standard of Illegal and/or Immoral is not the standard for justification of means? But rather than illegal or immoral means may or may not be justified by ends?
Alright, I'll add an option.
Boo, you stated that Illegal and Immoral Means were Never Justified by the Ends. Later you waffled on the "illegal" standard.
Did you mean:
A. Either Illegality or Immorality of the means is enough to disqualify a means from being justified, regardless of the ends
B. Immorality alone disqualifies a means from being justified, regardless of the ends
C. Only if a Means is both Immoral and Illegal is it disqualified from being justified, regardless of the ends
or
D. You mis-spoke, and would in reality only argue that certain ends do not justify certain means, such as (you offer) torture for potentially life-saving intelligence.
No, this is simple:
You can't say that something like torture, illegal and immoral, is justified based on the ends. You can't. MLK made a stand, morally correct, breaking a law, and not saying don't prosecute. They are not the same thing. Stop trying to make them comparable.