View Poll Results: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, it's almost always immoral to kill just as well. Your little distinction argument doesn't mean that much really.
    It isn't my little distinction. The commandment in the Bible properly translated is "Thou shalt not murder." Killing is a fact of war, sadly. War used to be somewhat different than the modern conception concocted by those who prefer not to be targets but have identified every one else as such, and particularly and especially those who lack the means to defend themselves. These are the combatants that hide in schools, churches, behind women and children, and even target them specifically when it serves their purpose.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Even with collateral.
    Sometimes. It is a great boon of technology that we are able to minimize those times as much as possible, and an unfortunate side effect that public expectations of our ability to do so have increased even more than our ability.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    To me, the ends NEVER justify the means.

    If America can only survive by abandoning due process, the Bill of Rights, honor, and freedom...then let it die.


    I am done discussing this with you...we have already stated our positions...further discussion is waste of time (to me).
    So in the end you and your family won't be one of the survivors in this world unless someone protects you from your enemies for you.
    Islam is an antiquated religion and needs to either modernize with the times or be completely eradicated.
    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How do you engage in a war against an idea and how do you end it? Is the best way to fight a war against an idea with guns?
    You exterminate those out to exterminate you. Islam is at war with us. And playing cops and robbers won't stop them.
    Islam is an antiquated religion and needs to either modernize with the times or be completely eradicated.
    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    goddam?

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    You exterminate those out to exterminate you. Islam is at war with us. And playing cops and robbers won't stop them.
    I love this game. You don't even know who is a threat. You are treating an idea as a threat and it's not even something you can define exactly or know who is a threat or not. You basically have to spy on the entire world to even begin to fight it. It's entirely nonsense.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    Dude you don't charge enemies in a war for crimes. Would you have us charge all of Germany's army for murder or whatever when we captured them during WWII? What kind of loopy ass world do you live in?
    You dont charge enemies if they are a part of a state fighting force (AKA a states army). You do however charge people who dont pledge allegiance to a recognized state but a organization (such as a terrorist organization).


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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sometimes. It is a great boon of technology that we are able to minimize those times as much as possible, and an unfortunate side effect that public expectations of our ability to do so have increased even more than our ability.
    When there's no hope of apprehension, mass murdering sociopaths gotta go even with a few collateral, for the good of the neighborhood.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    To me, the ends NEVER justify the means.

    If America can only survive by abandoning due process, the Bill of Rights, honor, and freedom...then let it die.


    I am done discussing this with you...we have already stated our positions...further discussion is waste of time (to me).
    I agree further discussion is pointless. I will point out though that the people in question have done nothing to deserve our Bill of Rights, our honor, or our freedom. They've done everything they can to destroy it, and they have lost. I don't favor giving them another crack at it.

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    Re: What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Some in Congress have problems with remembering things they do. Fortunately those of us not in Congress don't! Those impassioned speeches in Congress in favor of invading Iraq are still very prominent in our memory banks, like it or not.

    Greetings, vesper.
    At the risk of going off-track, I have to disagree with this. We, the voting populace, don't remember, either. At least when it comes to stepping into the voting booth. Something about crossing that threshold causes normally rational people to forget everything and re-elect those whom they know are unworthy.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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