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  • No. Socialism never works.

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    Is socialism realistic?

    Is socialism possible in the United States?
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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Is socialism possible in the United States?
    Grab a gun and lets find out.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    What do you mean by socialism? Do you mean a communist system? Then no. If you mean more like a Scandinavian system, its possible but not very likely. However, the system we have is a mixed economy. Medicare is the largest socialized medicine program on earth. Social Security is huge. As is Medicaid. So socialism is indeed possible in the USA just like it is in every developed economy on earth.
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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    What do you mean by socialism? Do you mean a communist system? Then no. If you mean more like a Scandinavian system, its possible but not very likely. However, the system we have is a mixed economy. Medicare is the largest socialized medicine program on earth. Social Security is huge. As is Medicaid. So socialism is indeed possible in the USA just like it is in every developed economy on earth.
    What I mean is socialism.
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    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
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    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    meant to post this on the poll page. Not sure if i should start a new one or if a mod will move it.
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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Is socialism possible in the United States?
    Adjust your point of view for reality.
    Corporatism: our current model of capitalism generating profit without responsibility and will probably destroy the Planet Earth.
    Socialism: anything else

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    No.

    I know the progressives will come in and say we are borderline as it is, and they are correct.

    We also see how wonderful it's working for us

    This country was NEVER designed for this, it goes against everything it stands for and it's very foundation. Our culture (not the indoctrinated urban areas, despite what the progressives think, there are places outside of NYC, Boston, and LA) as a whole does coincide with the mindset of it. Sweden works, England works, etc....primarily because they have been under collective rule for thousands of years, quite literally bowing to a crown or government since they could walk. America is fundamentally different on all fronts. We have never bowed to a crown or leader (except recently, the current admin and the last one seems to believe the executive branch is borderline feudal lordship), thus, a large centralized power simply won't work.
    Just as anti-gun laws won't work, as this country is a gun-culture. People simply won't stand for it, again the urbanites don't count as they are essentially western Europeans, IMO have no business here.

    Now, I'm no fan of Thatcher for what she did to the Irish....however, she was right about one thing....socialism works until you run out of other peoples money. Eventually, businesses close and move out, and there goes the tax revenue (see France, new tax policy moved out 70 top major businesses in France elsewhere).
    Last edited by MichaelJR; 12-26-13 at 04:29 PM.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Is socialism possible in the United States?
    Probably not...just like a true Free Market Capitalist society would never be possible.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Corporatism: our current model of capitalism generating profit without responsibility and will probably destroy the Planet Earth.
    Complete Newspeak. Corporatism has nothing to do with capitalism, it is a Third Position theory supported by Fascists and its form is completely different to anything remotely related to the current U.S system. Try reading up on corporatism before using the word.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
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    Rhine capitalism is not socialism. The Nordic model even is not socialism. Socialism is a horizontal network of direct democracy through both economic and political democracy. Worker-owned co-operatives, nationalized utilities, and a direct ownership of the means of production by citizens is socialism.

    Most people are sprouting Newspeak.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Of course it is. And it is pretty much the inevitable direction that we're going in. The last five hundred years have been a continual march away from aristocracy and towards egalitarianism. The next five hundred are likely to be no different. That's the direction humanity is going in. I don't know how far behind or ahead the United States will be, or even if there will be a United States. But the world is basically only going to get more egalitarian unless we do something insane like have a nuclear war and destroy civilization. And even then, it might still.
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