View Poll Results: Is socialism possible in the United States

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  • No. Socialism never works.

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Thread: Is socialism realistic?

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vodon View Post
    Of course, there's plenty of alternative models to the Soviet model. Decentralized planning, inclusive democracy, market socialism, planning using cybernetics, participatory economics, etc.
    I ask you, do you have examples of real socialism where the person may exist comfortably. Because I know only egregious examples of socialism. The Soviet Union and the entire Warsaw bloc. China, Vietnam and North Korea. Albania, Cuba and Mongolia. Kampuchea. Everywhere the same. Prison, hunger, repression.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I think there is a difference between having a program that can be considered socialist in nature and having a country that is.
    He confuses "socialism" as a system and "social" program under capitalism.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    There is lots of socialism in the USA. I think the Mainstream Media is trying to give it a bad name like Republicans call themselves conservatives. Privatizing profit and socializing liabilities is not conservative. If you're old enough to remember the McCarthy "Communist" scare of the 50s and the lives ruined by false accusations, you can also grasp that the gov't can do the same thing anytime, with the MSM backing. I think there are great upsides to small scale capitalism and socialism, but Corporatism generates a large scale monster detrimental to society as a whole. The "isms" are what you make them. They are not cut and dried, molded finished products. Good governorship and citizenship build good "isms." Compromise in every area to make a fit. The closest you can come to a perfect fit.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    With any system, public administration begins to grow "meat." Each secretary wants to have his secretary. After a short time each department head hаs 10 deputies. But when you change the administration (in Western democracies), you may cut off the few heads of hydra . Under socialism, and unchanged for many years, administrations, this is impossible.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    There are so many different branches of thought, schools, interpretations, and theories of socialism that it's nearly impossible to practically use the world "socialism".
    "The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all" - Joan Robinson
    "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" - Winston Churchill

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    It can happen, but it can't work. If we aren't careful, it will happen.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    With a socialist government elected and put into power here do you think the American people as a whole would accept it? If not, can it succeed without the support of the majority of people?
    I don't think that's the way it would happen.
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    I should say that I do not know...but Pollyanna's voice must be heard.
    Egalitarianism is the key and time is the factor...we cannot continue to be so backward

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    What do you mean by socialism? Do you mean a communist system? Then no. If you mean more like a Scandinavian system, its possible but not very likely. However, the system we have is a mixed economy. Medicare is the largest socialized medicine program on earth. Social Security is huge. As is Medicaid. So socialism is indeed possible in the USA just like it is in every developed economy on earth.
    Yeah? How are those programs doing? Everything hunky-dory and not headed towards inevitable fiscal collapse or anything?

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    Re: Is socialism realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Socialism is a system where everyone gets free hamburgers but nobody is willing to make them.
    NO "like" , as this is silly and totally untrue , directly from Fox and Rush.

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