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Your Opinion on Plus Size Barbie

What do you think of plus-size barbie?

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I spent alot of my childhood in nature, catching lizzards, snakes and other animals.

At home I spent my time with Lego.
 
To be realistic they need mild acne barbie with a smaller bust size with some body hair stubble (for winter edition Barbie) and wider hips.

Barbie also needs to have the ability to get pregnant and contract herpes from Ken in order to encourage safe sex as well.
 
falcata said:
Interesting to think about the Sociology and the Geography associated with this.

What do you think of this though?
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It's always been this way. Even the Viking women were independent and strong... the men would go sailing off somewhere, the women would have to run the country while the men were plundering some English village.

Also, religion never really took hold in Sweden. That might have something to do with it as well. Honestly though, I'm not really sure why it is the way it is, I just know that in Sweden, you're really not supposed to think about women and men as having different gender roles. Just like you will see women who do all the jobs that men do (and you see this in America now as well), you will also see a lot of men in Sweden who are nannies, who are nurses, teachers, chefs, maids, all the typical female jobs in America.

America I think has progressed to a point where women can play male roles, even though in some ways this isn't complete. However, men still hold firmly to their gender role in the USA, which is less the case in Sweden.

American men see Swedish men as sissies, Swedish men see American men as trying too hard and being insecure in their manhood. Really it's just two different cultures.


Why do you think things are this way? Interested to hear your thoughts as well.
 
digsbe said:
To be realistic they need mild acne barbie with a smaller bust size with some body hair stubble (for winter edition Barbie) and wider hips.

Barbie also needs to have the ability to get pregnant and contract herpes from Ken in order to encourage safe sex as well.
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I just threw up a little...
 
The German said:
I spent alot of my childhood in nature, catching lizzards, snakes and other animals.

At home I spent my time with Lego.
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That's what kids should be doing. You never see kids outside anymore. Too bad. I was either out catching fish and frogs or playing sports most of the time. Inside there was legos and a little bit of Nintendo.
 
Peter Grimm said:
That's what kids should be doing. You never see kids outside anymore. Too bad. I was either out catching fish and frogs or playing sports most of the time. Inside there was legos and a little bit of Nintendo.
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I actualy spent most of my time outside, because my father was inside, and he was abusive.
 
Peter Grimm said:
It's always been this way. Even the Viking women were independent and strong... the men would go sailing off somewhere, the women would have to run the country while the men were plundering some English village.

Also, religion never really took hold in Sweden. That might have something to do with it as well. Honestly though, I'm not really sure why it is the way it is, I just know that in Sweden, you're really not supposed to think about women and men as having different gender roles. Just like you will see women who do all the jobs that men do (and you see this in America now as well), you will also see a lot of men in Sweden who are nannies, who are nurses, teachers, chefs, maids, all the typical female jobs in America.

America I think has progressed to a point where women can play male roles, even though in some ways this isn't complete. However, men still hold firmly to their gender role in the USA, which is less the case in Sweden.

American men see Swedish men as sissies, Swedish men see American men as insecure in their manhood. Really it's just two different cultures.


Why do you think things are this way? Interested to hear your thoughts as well.
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The historical basis for the Scandinavian countries make a great foundation for gender equality. The harshness of their lives made it necessary to have the great responsibilities and tasks for both genders. In a contrasting manner the much more bearable lives of the Mediterranean cultures gave the people there a lot more room to have certain social restrictions and expectations without causing detrimental harm to their society.

This can be seen again as these countries began to industrialize. Sweden with a population today of only 10 million while countries such as Italy and Spain have around 40 to 60 million. Imagine the differences when these countries' populations were based more on their agrarian capabilities. Italy and Spain can afford to hold their genders in different lights, while the Scandinavian countries have much less to work with population wise. This along with their historical foundations have made these countries develop very different perceptions of what is appropriate.

America although diverse is far to similar to the Mediterranean cultures. This is largely upon the nations once great traditional values stemming from religion and the arable landscape. Of course you can take into consideration the frontier women and the surges of the feminist movement during the early 20th century and during the 60's, but for the most part we still have a fairly "traditional" view of society.
 
falcata said:
The historical basis for the Scandinavian countries make a great foundation for gender equality. The harshness of their lives made it necessary to have the great responsibilities and tasks for both genders. In a contrasting manner the much more bearable lives of the Mediterranean cultures gave the people there a lot more room to have certain social restrictions and expectations without causing detrimental harm to their society.

This can be seen again as these countries began to industrialize. Sweden with a population today of only 10 million while countries such as Italy and Spain have around 40 to 60 million. Imagine the differences when these countries' populations were based more on their agrarian capabilities. Italy and Spain can afford to hold their genders in different lights, while the Scandinavian countries have much less to work with population wise. This along with their historical foundations have made these countries develop very different perceptions of what is appropriate.

America although diverse is far to similar to the Mediterranean cultures. This is largely upon the nations once great traditional values stemming from religion and the arable landscape. Of course you can take into consideration the frontier women and the surges of the feminist movement during the early 20th century and during the 60's, but for the most part we still have a fairly "traditional" view of society.
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I think you are probably right. My favorite thing about America since I've moved here is how all ideas are welcome here. I think in Sweden, people are a bit uncomfortable with disagreement and tension. Americans love disagreement and tension, and in the realm of opinions and ideas, I think that's a very good thing.
 
I'd let plus size Barbie go down on me. :lol:
 
Peter Grimm said:
There is currently a debate raging over at the Huffington Post whether Mattel should make a plus-size Barbie doll for children.

On the one hand, people are arguing that the original (skinny) Barbie promotes an unhealthy body image, and that little girls should have more realistic dolls to play with.

On the other hand, people are arguing that the plus-size Barbie promotes unhealthy eating habits, and they are saying it's political correctness gone wild.

Then, of course, you have the middle-of-the-roaders, who think they should make a Barbie somewhat in between the two dolls shown below.

What do you think?

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I prefer some meat on the bones, but they overdid it on the face.

Posting because it's late, I can't sleep, and I'm bored. I don't really give a rat's arse about this issue, so I guess the current version is fine with me.
 
falcata said:
The historical basis for the Scandinavian countries make a great foundation for gender equality. The harshness of their lives made it necessary to have the great responsibilities and tasks for both genders. In a contrasting manner the much more bearable lives of the Mediterranean cultures gave the people there a lot more room to have certain social restrictions and expectations without causing detrimental harm to their society.

This can be seen again as these countries began to industrialize. Sweden with a population today of only 10 million while countries such as Italy and Spain have around 40 to 60 million. Imagine the differences when these countries' populations were based more on their agrarian capabilities. Italy and Spain can afford to hold their genders in different lights, while the Scandinavian countries have much less to work with population wise. This along with their historical foundations have made these countries develop very different perceptions of what is appropriate.

America although diverse is far to similar to the Mediterranean cultures. This is largely upon the nations once great traditional values stemming from religion and the arable landscape. Of course you can take into consideration the frontier women and the surges of the feminist movement during the early 20th century and during the 60's, but for the most part we still have a fairly "traditional" view of society.
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Good post.

Question: Sweden used to be much more war-like, a few hundred years ago. How does that fit in?
 
radcen said:
I prefer some meat on the bones, but they overdid it on the face.

Posting because it's late, I can't sleep, and I'm bored. I don't really give a rat's arse about this issue, so I guess the current version is fine with me.
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Eww! :lol: I guess fat girls need lovin' too!
 
How about a healthy looking Barbie? And no, the normal Barbie would not be a healthy person.
 
Gathomas88 said:
I think that kind of depends upon how strong someone's jaw happens to be, honestly.

I'm not fat by any stretch of the imagination, but I am prone to being a bit more "jowly" in general simply because I have kind of a small jaw. I basically have to be skin and bones to get it to go away entirely.
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Yes, but her's is HUGE! It was funny because I hadn't seen her in years, and then I just happened to run into her. She used to be really thin, and when I saw her again all could think was "did you eat my friend Tina?" :mrgreen:
 
Your Star said:
How about a healthy looking Barbie? And no, the normal Barbie would not be a healthy person.
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I don't know. When I was little, I liked the fact that Barbie was hot. Who wants to play with an ugly, fat or average-looking Barbie?
 
ChrisL said:
I don't know. When I was little, I liked the fact that Barbie was hot. Who wants to play with an ugly, fat or average-looking Barbie?
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Skinny to the bone ain't hot, just saying.
 
Your Star said:
Skinny to the bone ain't hot, just saying.
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Well, apparently a lot of people would disagree with you, seeing as what a hot seller Barbie has been for generations. ;)
 
Let's face it, if you have giant knockers you can be either fat or thin. Doesn't really matter to a lot of people. :lol:
 
ChrisL said:
Well, apparently a lot of people would disagree with you, seeing as what a hot seller Barbie has been for generations. ;)
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That's not really the point. The point is, that Barbie's shape is anatomically impossible, and young girls can have lots of problems trying to live up to unrealistic expectations of what they should look like.

When did healthy become unattractive?
 
Honestly, I think they can and should make Barbie Dolls in whatever sizes, skin tones, genders, etc.... will sell the best. They're a toy company, nothing more.

I will however tell you, that the chances of any daughter of mine ever having a Barbie Doll of any size is very small. There are much more appropriate toys for girls and young women to be playing with... toy kitchens, vacuume cleaners. irons, dress-up clothes, life-like baby dolls, and so on.
 
Your Star said:
That's not really the point. The point is, that Barbie's shape is anatomically impossible, and young girls can have lots of problems trying to live up to unrealistic expectations of what they should look like.

When did healthy become unattractive?
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I don't know, but everyone is built differently. Some people can never be thin because of their body habitus, while other people are just naturally thin. So either way, you're going to offend somebody! :lol:

I agree about Barbie's dimensions though. Pretty much impossible in real life without looking bony to be THAT thin.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Legos. :rock

My younger brother and I had more fun playing with those as children than I can easily account for. We'd build whole cities and role play complex stories with our lego men and action figures in them.
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Same. Fun times..

Legos and SW. That's pretty much all i played with as a kid. My older sister was the Barbie doll Princess. Rarely was there fights in our house over not sharing toys nicely. She thought mine were dumb and i wasn't overly keen on hers :lol:.
 
Serenity said:
Same. Fun times..

Legos and SW. That's pretty much all i played with as a kid. My older sister was the Barbie doll Princess. Rarely was there fights in our house over not sharing toys nicely. She thought mine were dumb and i wasn't overly keen on hers :lol:.
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I played with Barbies, dollies and matchbox cars! My aunt had sons and had a HUGE collection of matchbox cars and I loved them. :lol:
 
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