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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Then your answer would be "no". How is that flawed?
    Because a "no" answer gets lumped into that conclusion that the mandate is not a motivator and you can blow it off... In my case, and I bet a majority of others. the mandate is a non-factor.

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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Following The Law just for the sake of it being the law is a good way to get ones rights taken away. It can also be just as patriotic to scoff at the law. Indeed it if wasn't for people scoffing at the law prohibition would still be around, segregation would still be around, and the underground railroad would never have happened.....just to name a few instances where scoffing the law created huge change.
    300 million people with 300 million ideas cannot possibly be a good thing. More can be accomplished when people work together such as the examples that you sighted. When a bunch of selfish whiney babies do whatever the want to, it will never yield the results of concerted efforts of people working together to end prohibition, to integrate society or to abolish slavery.

    It's not the same thing at all. 300 million people doing their own thing is not the same as 10 million fighting for one cause, 10 million fighting for another cause, so on and so forth. Individualism is the theme of today. Nothing can ever be accomplished with this widespread mentality.
    Last edited by vasuderatorrent; 12-25-13 at 10:09 AM.

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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Can you define the question please?

    I'm getting health insurance but not because the King insisted. So, am I a YES or a NO?
    You are a no. The question implies you are submitting to the law against your will. Your purchase of health insurance seems to be a coincidence. You have to read the OP carefully it doesn't say because Obama says so. It says because Obamacare says so. This was a law passed by the majority of congress, the majority of the senate, signed by the president, upheld by the constitution and it was tested in the state of Massachusetts under the leadership of Mitt Romney. The OP is a little misleading.

    It should read, "Are you going to get health insurance because the Affordable Care Act requires it?" or "Are you going to be buying health insurance simply because it is required by law?" or "Are you buying health insurance because of an idea introduced by Mitt Romney?"

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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Veteran's have excellent VA healthcare benefits and don't need to sign up for Obamacare.

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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Because of the Mandate? No. Because it is part of my compensation? Yes.

    If I for some reason don't get it through my job?

    ....I would be very hesitant to put my personal information on that website. It's like buying from a site that you know won't protect your credit card number / pin / etc.
    The law doesn't require using the website. Don't be so dramatic.

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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    300 million people with 300 million ideas cannot possibly be a good thing. More can be accomplished when people work together such as the examples that you sighted. When a bunch of selfish whiney babies do whatever the want to, it will never yield the results of concerted efforts of people working together to end prohibition, to integrate society or to abolish slavery.

    It's not the same thing at all. 300 million people doing their own thing is not the same as 10 million fighting for one cause, 10 million fighting for another cause, so on and so forth. Individualism is the theme of today. Nothing can ever be accomplished with this widespread mentality.
    Oh come now, what do you think I'm advocating here? Do you think that I am advocating that 300 million people ignore all laws in order to "do their own thing"? Or 300 million people ignoring one law (as a form of protest that has been used in the past) that goes against the spirit of our Constitution? A law that was created by a few people who ignored the fact that a majority of those 300 million people were against the mandate from the begining and still are.

    All other avenues were used to try and get rid of the mandate in Obamacare. People went through the courts, the courts ultimately ended up calling it a tax when EVERYONE knows damn well its not. People have tried to get it repealed over 40 times since it was enacted. Failed every time. The only other recourse left to The People is to protest in the same form that thousands of others protested laws in the past. Ignore the law in question.
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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Oh come now, what do you think I'm advocating here? Do you think that I am advocating that 300 million people ignore all laws in order to "do their own thing"? Or 300 million people ignoring one law (as a form of protest that has been used in the past) that goes against the spirit of our Constitution?
    I don't know which one you are advocating. I know which one is happening. Surely you see a difference between fighting against something that is oppressive and something that is designed to improve our country. People aren't fighting against the health care law to stand up for liberty and the American ideal. They are rebelling against the law to save $300 in mandatory government purchases or a tax(according to the supreme court). These people aren't going to organize, risk their fortunes, risk their liberty and risk their life to fight against health insurance. People will organize, risk their fortunes, risk their liberty and risk their life to fight things like the right for gay marriage. Mandatory health insurance is an economic issue not an act to oppress a certain class of citizens or to restrict someone's right to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness.

    Stop being so dramatic about this. Nobody will organize over this. It just isn't going to happen.
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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    All other avenues were used to try and get rid of the mandate in Obamacare. People went through the courts, the courts ultimately ended up calling it a tax when EVERYONE knows damn well its not. People have tried to get it repealed over 40 times since it was enacted. Failed every time. The only other recourse left to The People is to protest in the same form that thousands of others protested laws in the past. Ignore the law in question.
    Well, at least among the people who bothered to respond to your poll the individual mandate appears to be a non-factor in their decision-making. That level of indifference would seem to undermine some of the more dramatic and inflammatory rhetoric about the mandate.

    Anyway, your poll didn't ask folks to specify but I imagine that most of the people answering "no" are not saying they're deciding to go uninsured as some kind of protest, they're saying that other factors dominated their decision to carry insurance next year (I count myself in this group).

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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    I already have it, but if I didn't, I wouldn't. I'd rather pay the fine than something that I don't need or want. Screw Obamacare.
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    Re: Are you going to get health insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I already have it, but if I didn't, I wouldn't. I'd rather pay the fine than something that I don't need or want. Screw Obamacare.
    If you don't need or want it, why do you have it?

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