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    Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    "Common" crimes. Non-political. Everything from parking tickets to murder.

    Keep in mind that if we would/could eliminate immunity for them, other countries would do the same for our diplomats.
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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    "Common" crimes. Non-political. Everything from parking tickets to murder.

    Keep in mind that if we would/could eliminate immunity for them, other countries would do the same for our diplomats.
    Well if we did eliminate diplomatic immunity it would be hard to deal with any country directly (i.e. going to their country) for fear of breaking some obscure law (i.e. woman not covering their faces).

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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    "Common" crimes. Non-political. Everything from parking tickets to murder.

    Keep in mind that if we would/could eliminate immunity for them, other countries would do the same for our diplomats.
    Yes. By making the immunity absolute it avoids potentially fractious confrontations and dangerous situations for diplomats left defenseless to the capricious nature of politics, changing circumstances, misunderstandings, and the like. That a properly accredited diplomat is inviolate has been one of our most useful and civilized innovations and has served us very well. The few minor incidents of misconduct should not be enough to impugn this system or our treaty obligations.

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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    Yes, of course they should. It's one of the basic principles of all diplomacy, and to do away with it would regress our relations with other nations by leaps and bounds -- just imagine if the British ambassador to Saudi Arabia had to cover her face!

    Absurd.

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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    It depends. Are these minor crimes committed out of ignorance of the system? They should not be held accountable for those crimes. If they are crimes committed willfully because they know they can get away with it? They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I'd say intent should be the deciding factor.
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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    Yes. We don't want our people subject to arrest and prosecution in a foreign country.

    Ideally, I think most favored nation status should apply to countries that agree to hold their diplomats accountable under the home country's laws for crimes committed while in the host country with fines, when applicable, sent to the home country.
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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    "Common" crimes. Non-political. Everything from parking tickets to murder.

    Keep in mind that if we would/could eliminate immunity for them, other countries would do the same for our diplomats.
    Realistically diplomats have to.

    Consulars don't.
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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    I should have voted Other but I voted No.

    It really depends on what though. It depends on if they are doing something to someone or not. New York City is where the United Nations Headquarters is located.

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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    "Common" crimes. Non-political. Everything from parking tickets to murder.

    Keep in mind that if we would/could eliminate immunity for them, other countries would do the same for our diplomats.
    No they should not get any immunity.If our citizens where in other countries committing crimes they wouldn't get any immunity and our diplomats shouldn't be out committing any crimes. If countries want to use bull **** religious laws against our diplomats then we can cut ties off with that country of bomb them into submission.
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    Re: Should foreign diplomats get immunity from crimes?

    It is illegal in many countries to criticize the government.

    In many of those countries, U.S. policy is critical of the government.

    So that is basically a way of saying:

    "Should we neuter our foreign service, or tell them to spend years in reeducation camps in order to present U.S. policy preferences?"

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