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Duck Dynasty

Select what represents your view?

  • I don't agree with Phil's comments and he had no right saying it.

    Votes: 4 3.8%

  • I don't agree with Phil's comment's but defend his right to say it.

    Votes: 41 39.4%

  • I agree with Phil's comments and defend his right to say it.

    Votes: 26 25.0%

  • A&E had no right to suspend Phil.

    Votes: 3 2.9%

  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil but I don't agree with it.

    Votes: 44 42.3%

  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil and I agree with it.

    Votes: 26 25.0%

  • It's a question of "freedom of speech" and very important.

    Votes: 13 12.5%

  • Phil's beard is too weird, which makes him a slave to fame.

    Votes: 12 11.5%
  • Total voters
    104
  • Poll closed .
digsbe said:
I agree with what he said, he was speaking Biblical truth about homosexuality and sin, what he said was correct although shared a little crass with speaking of vaginas and anuses.

I also support A&E's right to suspend him, they are a company that can choose who to associate with. However, their actions were bigoted, intolerant and wrong and do not cast them in a favorable light in my eyes. It sets a double standard that it's only ok to uphold homosexuality and agree with an LGBT agenda but those with a contrary opinion should be shut up and punished. That's not "tolerance."
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Hey Digs...quick question: Do you ever wear clothing made of two different fibers? That is considered an abomination by Leviticus as well. Just wanna make sure that you are consistent in your following Biblical guidelines.
 
A very strange episode. Apparently free speech must be attacked to protect gay rights.:peace
 
Rocketman said:
nothing, he stated what was on his mind which is protected speech. It is funny how the left wing moonbats get their panties in a wad over someone exercising their rights.
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Sure he has the right to say whatever he wants, but A&E has the right to end their professional relationship with him, whenever they want.
 
grip said:
What do you think Phil Robertson should have done different, if anything?
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Probably should've read his contract and considered that he was engaged in an interview with the media.
 
Jack Hays said:
A very strange episode. Apparently free speech must be attacked to protect gay rights.:peace
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Free speech has nothing to do with private companies.

Only the government can violate someones First Amendment rights.
 
Starbuck said:
Sure he has the right to say whatever he wants, but A&E has the right to end their professional relationship with him, whenever they want.
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it won't last long when ratings drop off
 
Jack Hays said:
A very strange episode. Apparently free speech must be attacked to protect gay rights.:peace
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gays are much more sensitive than normal people
 
Where is the, 'I could care less what he said, it's just a stupid tv show.' option?
 
DA60 said:
Where is the, 'I could care less what he said, it's just a stupid tv show.' option?
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Probably figured you wouldn't bother with the poll if that was your choice.
 
Did you think that all of television is going to collapse following that suspension?
 
tacomancer said:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ned-phil-robertson-speaking-out-too-much.html

looks like he knew what he was getting into. so probably nothing. besides, the guy is fairly bigoted against those not of his culture (all the yuppie comments for example), so he probably is enjoying the stir a bit. Still a cool guy in my opinion, despite his flaws, but we all got flaws.
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Thing is, his whole character is contrived. Perhaps it's well contrived, but it's fake nonetheless.

He's playing the role of a parody, much like Stephen Colbert.

Hell, they are just a bunch of yuppies:

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That's Willie Robertson, you know before the show.
 
LaMidRighter said:
I read the context of what he said, he was just giving out examples of biblical sin, in fact he mentioned straight people living in sin in the same sentence, along with prostitution. He also said he isn't to judge anyone and "let god sort 'em out" when their time comes. Agree or disagree I've seen much worse come with far fewer consequences.
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Well, anyone can selectively pick out bible quotes about a subject and say "I'm not judging", when it's obvious they're using the source to back up a personal opinion. Though I can deal better with people who are honest about their ideas than others who're are sneaky and phony about it. Like if someone ever tells you watching a baby being born is the most natural and beautiful thing, RUN! It's like an emerging bloody Spam with a purple worm hanging off of it.

LaMidRighter said:
Myself. :lol:

These folks are pretty bright though, they do things themselves for the most part and show practical intelligence rather than the theoretical intelligence that always fails in a highly comical way. That said I've never seen an episode but know a bit about their story, I am more offended at groups(pick an ideology) that seek to silence people they don't agree with. I was as pissed off at the Christian lady who threatened "Married With Children" as I am with people attacking Phil Robertson. In any of these cases of attacking their advertisers and television carriers it's simply a bully tactic.

The Dixie Chicks, I never felt sorry for as they went out of their way to make an unsolicited statement, they attacked their own core audience.
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I don't disagree with his right to an opinion or A&E's response. But they're really caricatures of a southerner. My hillbilly uncles from the mountains of Virginia lived in a less modern environment and didn't look as "bumpkin". I'm not overly swayed one way or the other over extreme ideology. It's a sign of simple mindedness to me.

Phil is similar to the Dixie Chicks in that they're not being smart about mixing political views with their profession of entertainment. I don't like it when any of those famous people use their notoriety as a platform to express their ideas. Clooney, Penn, Sarandon, Jolie etc are numb-nuts. If there job was op-ed, then fine otherwise their views don't impress me one way or the other.
 
He had a right to say what he said. GLAAD had a right to respond to what he said. A&E had a right to suspend him. It also looks like A&E had warned Phil about being so outspoken. So pretty much all this equals is a big deal about people having the right to do something and no one's rights being violated. The only positive thing that can come out of this is reality TV dies.
 
Starbuck said:
Probably should've read his contract and considered that he was engaged in an interview with the media.
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Apparently he had already been warned about espousing his Christian views too much on politically sensitive subjects by A&E.

Mason66 said:
It doesn't matter how he said it, this still would have happened.
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Don't agree at all. He could've said something else a 100 different ways without much of a peep.

tacomancer said:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ned-phil-robertson-speaking-out-too-much.html

looks like he knew what he was getting into. so probably nothing. besides, the guy is fairly bigoted against those not of his culture (all the yuppie comments for example), so he probably is enjoying the stir a bit. Still a cool guy in my opinion, despite his flaws, but we all got flaws.
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Yeah, I didn't think he was surprised by the response he knew it was on thin ice. Part of me respects him for saying his mind but part of me thinks he needs a new mind...lol

It's one thing to be FOR your culture and another to be against others. You can say "I like being a country fried Redneck" without saying "and everyone who isn't sucks."
 
A&E has a right to suspend Phil - employers have the right to fire employees, and media companies have the right to control their content. This wouldn't even be a discussion if he had gone off on a rant about how much he hated Japanese people and wish we would have wiped them all out in WWII, or something of similar violation of our social codes.

That being said, for A&E to suspend him for this is stupefyingly stupid. Who the hell do they think is watching this show, anyway? Upscale social liberals in New York? If you are a television show, don't piss off your base, especially by positioning yourself as attacking their values.

I get that SSM activists are pretty aggressive, and that A&E wanted to avoid having to deal with them; but they threw out the baby with the bathwater.
 
grip said:
Apparently he had already been warned about espousing his Christian views too much on politically sensitive subjects by A&E.
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:shrug: and apparently he (and his family) had also read Mark 8:38.

...If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."...
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cpwill said:
:shrug: and apparently he (and his family) had also read Mark 8:38.
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My father once told me "if you're going to stand up in the middle of a room and exclaim 'I'm the baddest mofo here!' You might have to back it up." Meaning that you can say what you want but you'll have to take the heat for it. If Phil is willing, more power to him. Every action will get you a reaction.
 
grip said:
My father once told me "if you're going to stand up in the middle of a room and exclaim 'I'm the baddest mofo here!' You might have to back it up." Meaning that you can say what you want but you'll have to take the heat for it. If Phil is willing, more power to him. Every action will get you a reaction.
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From what I understand of the family, they've had this issue come up before, and been very upfront about the fact that they are not willing to abandon their faith, or cease or in any way dilute the expression of their faith, for the Show. Given that their reaction was to all walk off rather than try to work around the "hiatus" of Phil, it seems they meant it. I would bet they are plenty willing, and I think there are people at A&E who are now much less at peace about this than they are.
 
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