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  • I don't agree with Phil's comments and he had no right saying it.

    5 3.62%
  • I don't agree with Phil's comment's but defend his right to say it.

    54 39.13%
  • I agree with Phil's comments and defend his right to say it.

    41 29.71%
  • A&E had no right to suspend Phil.

    3 2.17%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil but I don't agree with it.

    51 36.96%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil and I agree with it.

    32 23.19%
  • It's a question of "freedom of speech" and very important.

    22 15.94%
  • Phil's beard is too weird, which makes him a slave to fame.

    12 8.70%
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Thread: Duck Dynasty

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    If he weren't a famous personality representing a particular demographic, nobody would care. Part of the reason he's getting so much backing is the overreaction to politically unpopular views, especially in the Media.
    Your first sentence explained it better than your second.

    He is getting so much support because those in his white trash demographic take the reaction to his ignorant comments as an assault on one of their own.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    I agree with what he said, he was speaking Biblical truth about homosexuality and sin, what he said was correct although shared a little crass with speaking of vaginas and anuses.

    I also support A&E's right to suspend him, they are a company that can choose who to associate with. However, their actions were bigoted, intolerant and wrong and do not cast them in a favorable light in my eyes. It sets a double standard that it's only ok to uphold homosexuality and agree with an LGBT agenda but those with a contrary opinion should be shut up and punished. That's not "tolerance."
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Your first sentence explained it better than your second.

    He is getting so much support because those in his white trash demographic take the reaction to his ignorant comments as an assault on one of their own.
    That's funny but I believe in the freedom of speech pretty firmly, regardless of how unappealing someones views are. We used to either just ignore ignorant rants or laugh at them, which is far more effective than throwing a fit or taking action. A&E has the right to handle their business this way but people can also boycott their Network. The whole thing is overblown IMO.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    You can say I don't personally like homosexuality or believe it's inline with the bible without getting such a reaction. It's when you make comparisons with animals, reference to body parts and accusatory opinions that it opens up.
    Do you feel that as long as one ignores (does not speak of) the sexual acts associated with homosexuality and addresses only the general "sterilized" notion of it being a private lifestyle choice it is then OK to disapprove of it as with all other sin? That is much like saying that having feelings of sexual attraction to children is OK so long as no action is taken to satisfy them.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    People should stop watching A&E, but not because they've SUSPENDED the duck dynasty dude, people should stop watching A&E because they hired those idiots in the first place.

    As for the question really at hand -

    You have the right to say what you want.
    People then have the right to react to it.
    The consequences for the things you have the right to say truly do exist.

    Do the capitalist freedom lovers here believe people that own and operate businesses shouldn't be able to hire and fire people in a manner that's thought best for their particular business?

    Should a business owner not be able to fire somebody who negatively effects their business?

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    You haven't seen the News or threads here yet?
    No. And I've seen the TV show but I don't follow it or anything. It's just another fake "reality" show.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    nothing, he stated what was on his mind which is protected speech. It is funny how the left wing moonbats get their panties in a wad over someone exercising their rights.
    It is free speech but nothing says you have to like it and it is a privately owned company. You can say what you want but if you get punched in the face for it, it is not my problem.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Do you feel that as long as one ignores (does not speak of) the sexual acts associated with homosexuality and addresses only the general "sterilized" notion of it being a private lifestyle choice it is then OK to disapprove of it as with all other sin? That is much like saying that having feelings of sexual attraction to children is OK so long as no action is taken to satisfy them.
    I don't personally feel what consenting adults do in the privacy of their home is my business, anymore than mine is theirs. I personally don't judge others lifestyle or sexual orientation. If someone wants to share their opinion on what the bible says or others do I might listen but I won't necessarily agree.

    Pedophilia is a completely different subject and prohibited by law. Minors don't fall into adult categories.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    No. And I've seen the TV show but I don't follow it or anything. It's just another fake "reality" show.

    Read the OP in this thread and it'll get you up to speed. If you want?
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    What EXACTLY did Phil Robertson that was so offensive, just so that I'm understanding it properly?
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