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  • I don't agree with Phil's comments and he had no right saying it.

    5 3.62%
  • I don't agree with Phil's comment's but defend his right to say it.

    54 39.13%
  • I agree with Phil's comments and defend his right to say it.

    41 29.71%
  • A&E had no right to suspend Phil.

    3 2.17%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil but I don't agree with it.

    51 36.96%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil and I agree with it.

    32 23.19%
  • It's a question of "freedom of speech" and very important.

    22 15.94%
  • Phil's beard is too weird, which makes him a slave to fame.

    12 8.70%
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Thread: Duck Dynasty

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Couple of things.
    1) The Dixie Chicks spoke out against an American action on foreign soil
    2) Phil Robertson was asked his opinion, so he gave it
    3) No one asked the Dixie Chicks to talk politics at the concert, they decided to do that on their own
    4) The Dixie Chicks spoke against their core audience, then lost them, and radio stations refused to play them.

    In both cases freedom of speech was not violated, in the case of the Dixie Chicks they ruined their own career by pissing off their audience unprovoked. Duck Dynasty may or may not go on(I don't care, I don't watch the show) but the Robertson family is loaded already, Duck Commander is a popular brand.
    I think we could say the same about both analogies. The Dixie Chicks AND Phil Robertson. Both spoke their mind unprovoked. Both are filthy rich. And as far as the Dixie Chicks go, their sales went off the charts despite the so called 'boycott."

    At the end of the day, people who dislike the Dixie Chicks for utilizing their freedom of speech quit supporting them. People who dislike Phil Robertson for utilizing his freedom of speech will stop supporting him.

    The problem with the Dixie Chick example is that a LOT of their base audience, are the same type of hicktards that would LOVE Duck Dynasty. But, fortunately for the Dixie Chicks, their international market happen to agree with them and their sales went through the roof. Now, the hicktards may WANT to support Phil Robertson but if A&E takes them off the air, they have no international market to fall back on. All that's left is to keep making duck calls.

    Bottom line is, they are all so filthy rich, none of this will keep them from missing any meals.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    The problem with the Dixie Chick example is that a LOT of their base audience, are the same type of hicktards that would LOVE Duck Dynasty.
    Yep -- The Chicks pissed off their target audience, while Robertson delighted his.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Both spoke their mind unprovoked.
    To be fair...the Chicks randomly stated it at a concert I believe. Robertson seemingly was asked a question during an interview about what he thought was sinful. That's not exactly "unprovoked".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    To be fair...the Chicks randomly stated it at a concert I believe. Robertson seemingly was asked a question during an interview about what he thought was sinful. That's not exactly "unprovoked".
    I fail to see how anyone was "provoked."

    Myself, I would just say "no comment," if I thought I was being "provoked." But that's just me, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I fail to see how anyone was "provoked."
    "encouraged", then.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    "encouraged", then.
    That, I can wrap my head around. "Provoked?" Meh.....

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    That is your personal opinion based on your beliefs.

    And A&E is not denying him his free right of speech, but A&E has the freedom of choice not to transmit a show of someone they disagree with on this important issue (to A&E).
    Actually...its not his 'opinion'...its a fact that he quoted the words of God as contained in the Bible. BUT...you and he may choose to agree or disagree that there is such a thing as a God. THAT is an opinion...a belief based on a choice.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think we could say the same about both analogies. The Dixie Chicks AND Phil Robertson. Both spoke their mind unprovoked. Both are filthy rich. And as far as the Dixie Chicks go, their sales went off the charts despite the so called 'boycott."

    At the end of the day, people who dislike the Dixie Chicks for utilizing their freedom of speech quit supporting them. People who dislike Phil Robertson for utilizing his freedom of speech will stop supporting him.

    The problem with the Dixie Chick example is that a LOT of their base audience, are the same type of hicktards that would LOVE Duck Dynasty. But, fortunately for the Dixie Chicks, their international market happen to agree with them and their sales went through the roof. Now, the hicktards may WANT to support Phil Robertson but if A&E takes them off the air, they have no international market to fall back on. All that's left is to keep making duck calls.

    Bottom line is, they are all so filthy rich, none of this will keep them from missing any meals.
    Not to put too fine a point on things, but the DCs got smoked commercially after their comment. They released their next CD 4 years later and not a song from their CD broke the top 35. They received public high fives from the PC crowd...but commercially? They vanished.

    Still their right to say it but no way to avoid consequences. I think A&E has every right to suspend Phil Robertson. Hell...I think they should show some real integrity and pull the series completely INCLUDING reruns. And yet...they 'suspend' the man, and are showing a Duck Dynasty marathon. 8 new shows already in the can and there is little doubt that this will all be happy happy happily resolved come March when they have to make a decision.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I fail to see how anyone was "provoked."

    Myself, I would just say "no comment," if I thought I was being "provoked." But that's just me, I guess.
    Why? Its not like he is ashamed of the truth or the Word. Question asked, answered...and the faux outrage that came out because of the comments has given the family and his comments more visibility than could possibly be imagined. The only people looking really foolish in all this is GLAAD, A&E, and the Cracker Barrel.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not to put too fine a point on things, but the DCs got smoked commercially after their comment. They released their next CD 4 years later and not a song from their CD broke the top 35. They received public high fives from the PC crowd...but commercially? They vanished.

    Still their right to say it but no way to avoid consequences. I think A&E has every right to suspend Phil Robertson. Hell...I think they should show some real integrity and pull the series completely INCLUDING reruns. And yet...they 'suspend' the man, and are showing a Duck Dynasty marathon. 8 new shows already in the can and there is little doubt that this will all be happy happy happily resolved come March when they have to make a decision.
    Uhhh.....

    Dixie Chicks are an American country music band which has also crossed over into other genres. The band is composed of founding members (and sisters) Martie Erwin Maguire and Emily Erwin Robison, and lead singer Natalie Maines. The band formed in 1989 in Dallas, Texas, and was originally composed of four women performing bluegrass and country music, busking and touring the bluegrass festival circuits and small venues for six years without attracting a major label. After the departure of one bandmate, the replacement of their lead singer, and a slight change in their repertoire, Dixie Chicks soon achieved commercial success, beginning in 1998 with hit songs "There's Your Trouble" and "Wide Open Spaces".

    During a London concert ten days before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, lead vocalist Maines said, "we don't want this war, this violence, and we're ashamed that the President of the United States [George W. Bush] is from Texas".[1] The positive reaction to this statement from the British audience contrasted with the boycotts that ensued in the U.S., where the band was assaulted by talk-show conservatives,[2] while their albums were discarded in public protest.[2]

    As of 2012, Dixie Chicks had won 13 Grammy Awards, including five in 2007 for Taking the Long Way—which received the Grammy Award for Album of the Year—and "Not Ready to Make Nice", a single from that album. By May 2013, with 30.5 million certified albums sold,[3] and sales of 27.2 million albums in the U.S. alone, they had become the top selling all-female band and biggest selling country group in the U.S. during the Nielsen SoundScan era (1991–present).[4][5] <snip> Dixie Chicks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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