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  • I don't agree with Phil's comments and he had no right saying it.

    5 3.62%
  • I don't agree with Phil's comment's but defend his right to say it.

    54 39.13%
  • I agree with Phil's comments and defend his right to say it.

    41 29.71%
  • A&E had no right to suspend Phil.

    3 2.17%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil but I don't agree with it.

    51 36.96%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil and I agree with it.

    32 23.19%
  • It's a question of "freedom of speech" and very important.

    22 15.94%
  • Phil's beard is too weird, which makes him a slave to fame.

    12 8.70%
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Thread: Duck Dynasty

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Probably should've read his contract and considered that he was engaged in an interview with the media.
    Apparently he had already been warned about espousing his Christian views too much on politically sensitive subjects by A&E.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It doesn't matter how he said it, this still would have happened.
    Don't agree at all. He could've said something else a 100 different ways without much of a peep.

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    looks like he knew what he was getting into. so probably nothing. besides, the guy is fairly bigoted against those not of his culture (all the yuppie comments for example), so he probably is enjoying the stir a bit. Still a cool guy in my opinion, despite his flaws, but we all got flaws.
    Yeah, I didn't think he was surprised by the response he knew it was on thin ice. Part of me respects him for saying his mind but part of me thinks he needs a new mind...lol

    It's one thing to be FOR your culture and another to be against others. You can say "I like being a country fried Redneck" without saying "and everyone who isn't sucks."
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    A&E has a right to suspend Phil - employers have the right to fire employees, and media companies have the right to control their content. This wouldn't even be a discussion if he had gone off on a rant about how much he hated Japanese people and wish we would have wiped them all out in WWII, or something of similar violation of our social codes.

    That being said, for A&E to suspend him for this is stupefyingly stupid. Who the hell do they think is watching this show, anyway? Upscale social liberals in New York? If you are a television show, don't piss off your base, especially by positioning yourself as attacking their values.

    I get that SSM activists are pretty aggressive, and that A&E wanted to avoid having to deal with them; but they threw out the baby with the bathwater.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Apparently he had already been warned about espousing his Christian views too much on politically sensitive subjects by A&E.
    and apparently he (and his family) had also read Mark 8:38.

    ...If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."...

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and apparently he (and his family) had also read Mark 8:38.
    My father once told me "if you're going to stand up in the middle of a room and exclaim 'I'm the baddest mofo here!' You might have to back it up." Meaning that you can say what you want but you'll have to take the heat for it. If Phil is willing, more power to him. Every action will get you a reaction.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    My father once told me "if you're going to stand up in the middle of a room and exclaim 'I'm the baddest mofo here!' You might have to back it up." Meaning that you can say what you want but you'll have to take the heat for it. If Phil is willing, more power to him. Every action will get you a reaction.
    From what I understand of the family, they've had this issue come up before, and been very upfront about the fact that they are not willing to abandon their faith, or cease or in any way dilute the expression of their faith, for the Show. Given that their reaction was to all walk off rather than try to work around the "hiatus" of Phil, it seems they meant it. I would bet they are plenty willing, and I think there are people at A&E who are now much less at peace about this than they are.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Phil Robertson doesn't agree with homosexuality? Shocker!
    I agree with ALL of his comments. Not just the one's cherry picked by the media. If you read the whole article, you can see that homosexuals are not the only group of people he comments on. He comments on himself being a sinner as well.
    A&E can do whatever they want. I don't agree with it, but they can. I just wonder where the left is in their criticism of A&E for doing this. If a channel suspended someone for saying they agree with homosexuality, there would be an uproar over not only the topic, but that person's rights as well.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post

    Don't agree at all. He could've said something else a 100 different ways without much of a peep.

    If you believe that then you haven't been paying attention over the past years.

    Anything this religious man would have said about gays would have picked up on just like this was.

    Groups like GLAAD use situations like this to earn money, so not saying anything costs them money.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    He had a right to say it, and A&E, being a private company, had the right to fire him for it. It's not a question of rights.

    Should A&E have fired him for it? I don't think so. People get way too up in arms about crap like that. Did anyone who watches that show really think those people were a model of political correctness?
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    A&E has a right to suspend Phil - employers have the right to fire employees, and media companies have the right to control their content. This wouldn't even be a discussion if he had gone off on a rant about how much he hated Japanese people and wish we would have wiped them all out in WWII, or something of similar violation of our social codes.

    That being said, for A&E to suspend him for this is stupefyingly stupid. Who the hell do they think is watching this show, anyway? Upscale social liberals in New York? If you are a television show, don't piss off your base, especially by positioning yourself as attacking their values.

    I get that SSM activists are pretty aggressive, and that A&E wanted to avoid having to deal with them; but they threw out the baby with the bathwater.
    Agreed man. The angle that really pisses me off is the NAACP's view. He didn't say anything that reflected negatively upon black people IMO.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Nothing. He spoke God's word. [in his own special way]
    That is your personal opinion based on your beliefs.

    And A&E is not denying him his free right of speech, but A&E has the freedom of choice not to transmit a show of someone they disagree with on this important issue (to A&E).
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