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  • I don't agree with Phil's comments and he had no right saying it.

    5 3.62%
  • I don't agree with Phil's comment's but defend his right to say it.

    54 39.13%
  • I agree with Phil's comments and defend his right to say it.

    41 29.71%
  • A&E had no right to suspend Phil.

    3 2.17%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil but I don't agree with it.

    51 36.96%
  • A&E has a right to suspend Phil and I agree with it.

    32 23.19%
  • It's a question of "freedom of speech" and very important.

    22 15.94%
  • Phil's beard is too weird, which makes him a slave to fame.

    12 8.70%
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Thread: Duck Dynasty

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    People should stop watching A&E, but not because they've SUSPENDED the duck dynasty dude, people should stop watching A&E because they hired those idiots in the first place.

    As for the question really at hand -

    You have the right to say what you want.
    People then have the right to react to it.
    The consequences for the things you have the right to say truly do exist.

    Do the capitalist freedom lovers here believe people that own and operate businesses shouldn't be able to hire and fire people in a manner that's thought best for their particular business?

    Should a business owner not be able to fire somebody who negatively effects their business?
    Do you think what Phil said will negatively affect A&E?

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    This whole thing seems like a tempest in a teapot to me.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Do you think what Phil said will negatively affect A&E?
    A lot depends on their sponsors.

    Which I'm sure A&E has a much better grasp on than we do.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    That would be a yes. A&E is a secular network and doesn't appreciate its employees using their platform of fame to spread their religious beliefs. Explicitly religious employers would and should have similar expectations.
    The explicit religious beliefs are an integral part of this show, so why wouldn't the network expect the man to actually have these beliefs outside of the show?

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    He has every right to say whatever he wants but that doesn't mean there are no consequences to saying it. Freedom of speech does not include freedom from consequences. He was an idiot, but let's be honest, this is all just a publicity scam to get more people to watch Duck Dynasty. The suspension won't last.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    A lot depends on their sponsors.

    Which I'm sure A&E has a much better grasp on than we do.
    Yes they do but what percentage of the population is the gay community and what percentage of the population are hard core Christians?

    Do you think gays buy anything that is advertised on the Duck Dynasty show.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Yes they do but what percentage of the population is the gay community and what percentage of the population are hard core Christians?

    Do you think gays buy anything that is advertised on the Duck Dynasty show.
    I doubt there's much overlap between the gay community and the DD audience.
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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I doubt there's much overlap between the gay community and the DD audience.
    Exactly. A&E suspended Phil because of a few whiners but the majority of the audience, that actually buy the sponsors items don't matter.

    I doubt A&E even thought this through.

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Exactly. A&E suspended Phil because of a few whiners but the majority of the audience, that actually buy the sponsors items don't matter.

    I doubt A&E even thought this through.
    Maybe they will soon have an :A HA! revelation concerning action and reaction?

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    Re: Duck Dynasty

    I'm just shocked at the supposed "shock and awe" of the media towards his comments. What on earth did you expect him to say about Gays/Gay Marriage? To me, it's clearly a slow day in the newsroom and so they need someone to crucify. He can say whatever he wants and A&E has the right to suspend him for exercising that right. I'm just happy the guy has owned up to what he's said and hasn't chickened out -- people like that are a good thing far as having an actual opinion goes. But, common sense has no place in this little crusade by a certain slew of liberals. From what I can tell, that fella ain't budging. It all falls on A&E now, who somehow had no idea what they signed up for in starting this show.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post

    I don't care whether they fired him or not, but it sure does give stupid people who share his views an opportunity to whine like little children that he is some sort of victim when he was the one attempting to spread the sort of hate that victimizes others.
    The only folks whining like little children are the ones trying to crucify him for all this. And from what I know, he wasn't spreading some wave of hate, rather just his views. He wasn't pulling some Westboro Baptist Church nonsense. Carry on though.
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