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If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

Is MSM-Mainstream Media in the USA corrupted?


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If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

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A network television correspondent said, “Surely, Arthur, you don’t expect the American press to be the handmaidens of government.”“That’s exactly what I expect,” came the reply.An agency man raised the problem that had preoccupied Ambassador Maxwell Taylor and Barry Zorthian [a press officer based in Vietnam] — about the credibility of American officials. Responded the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs:“Look, if you think any American official is going to tell you the truth, then you’re stupid. Did you hear that? — stupid.”One of the most respected of all the newsmen in Vietnam—a veteran of World War II, the Indochina War and Korea — suggested that Sylvester was being deliberately provocative. Sylvester replied:“Look, I don’t even have to talk to you people. I know how to deal with you through your editors and publishers back in the States.”

“Look, I don’t even have to talk to you people. I know how to deal with you through your editors and publishers back in the States.”

"– Even if regular people don’t know this story, you’d expect it to be famous within the media — and particularly famous at “60 Minutes.” You might even imagine that “If you think any American official is going to tell you the truth, then you’re stupid” would be spray-painted on the walls of the “60 Minutes” offices. But if the performance of John Miller and his producers on the NSA segment is anything to go by, that is not the case.It’s hard to imagine what more the U.S. government could do to get reporters to distrust it, and all for naught. John Miller likely has an office feet away from someone who’s been told by a top U.S. official that reporters are morons if they believe anything top U.S. officials say. Miller’s response? Believe everything top U.S. officials say. (Of course, given that Miller is recreating Sylvester’s career path, it may also simply be that he agrees with Sylvester on the necessity of the press being handmaidens of government.)– Even if reporters have forgotten this story, you’d expect that it would be Exhibit A for left-wing media critics and repeated so often that it would be common knowledge in those limited circles. Yet the forces of forgetting in the U.S. are so powerful that I’d never encountered it, and I’m probably one of America’s top 25 consumers of left-wing media criticism."


If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

Was this the first overt manifestation of a corrupt MSM-Mainstream Media in the USA?

Has it become worse?

As these things tend to grow as they mature, is our press completely gov't controlled?

The Church Senate investigation in the 70s found at least 400 CIA assets in MSM jobs, and is that the same or have numbers increased as budgets have increased and the infectious tentacles of corruption spread?

Do you/we approve of a controlled MSM-Mainstream Media?

Should we avoid MSM-Mainstream Media to seek truth?

Are these MSM-Mainstream Media political and corrupting our process?

DP encourages debate in MSM-Mainstream Media streams and is this a good policy?​
 
Yes. It's run by the Illuminati and Bilderberg Group. Everyone should boycott the lying liberal media.
 
I don't care if it is Fox, MSNBC, CNN, or anybody else. They are all corrupt. It is all about the money and ratings. Pathetic.
 
Yes. It's run by the Illuminati and Bilderberg Group. Everyone should boycott the lying liberal media.

I don't know about the Illuminati and Bilderberg Group, but I'll grant you that it is run by Big Money. As for boycott, I have not had TV since 1990. All info is from the Internet, and lots of surfing for likely truths.
 
It is interesting that people define "MSM" largely as being network news programming.
 
Poll needs option without exclamation.
 
Thread is based on a World Nut Daily "article". Please warn when you link to them so we can avoid clicking the link and giving them traffic.

In answer to the poll question: do you believe that having a profit motive and being capitalistic is corrupt?
 
Poll needs option without exclamation.




I guess that everyone is entitled to use whatever punctuation that they want to use wherever they want to use it, but it seems to me that if you use exclamation points everywhere you degrade their significance.

I seldom use them.
 
Thread is based on a World Nut Daily "article". Please warn when you link to them so we can avoid clicking the link and giving them traffic.
In answer to the poll question: do you believe that having a profit motive and being capitalistic is corrupt?




If so there are a lot of corrupt people on this planet.
 
I wouldn't want to paint a broad bush because there's good and bad in everything. However when the 'news' lies or manipulates the truth, it makes it hard to discern who isn't.
 
Yes. It's run by the Illuminati and Bilderberg Group. Everyone should boycott the lying liberal media.






What about the lying far right media?

Shouldn't we boycott that also?

What's good for some should be good for others , eh?



How about if everyone just ignores all of the published news and we all spend all of our time traveling all over this planet collecting our own news?

That should eliminate all of the bias and corruption, eh?
 
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I don't care if it is Fox, MSNBC, CNN, or anybody else. They are all corrupt. It is all about the money and ratings. Pathetic.
Sad but true ?
NPR
CSpan
PBS
My aunt Tillie

Note the " ? " .
American media is a potpourri of lies, half truths, foolish opinions, and the truth...Its primary function is to "entertain " .
Finding and knowing anything is the hard part.
Solution ?
I'd greatly expand NPR and PBS.
 
Sad but true ?
NPR
CSpan
PBS
My aunt Tillie

Note the " ? " .
American media is a potpourri of lies, half truths, foolish opinions, and the truth...Its primary function is to "entertain " .
Finding and knowing anything is the hard part.
Solution ?
I'd greatly expand NPR and PBS.

Not at all, then the government has a monopoly over the news.
 
Thread is based on a World Nut Daily "article". Please warn when you link to them so we can avoid clicking the link and giving them traffic.

In answer to the poll question: do you believe that having a profit motive and being capitalistic is corrupt?

Perhaps you miss the point. You will never see this article on the MSM-Mainstream Media. Gee, I wonder why?
 
no vote
I do not know if Fox is included.
Is NPR included ?
Most if not all "news" is actually entertainment; but not corrupted as such...
 
Perhaps you miss the point. You will never see this article on the MSM-Mainstream Media. Gee, I wonder why?

Because only WND is stupid enough to publish it?
 
Because only WND is stupid enough to publish it?

I see. You need to be dumb as a box of rocks to publish the truth. It's an old true story.
 
Thread is based on a World Nut Daily "article". Please warn when you link to them so we can avoid clicking the link and giving them traffic.

In answer to the poll question: do you believe that having a profit motive and being capitalistic is corrupt?

Of course it is. Why else do you think we have created agencies to monitor and regulate it. To protect workers from its vise. Late 19th early 20th century American industry was nothin nice to work in unless you were in management. Work place safety, 40 hour work week, disability, child labor laws and a host of other things the Democratic Party delivered to America turned all that around and gave us the strong middle class that grew throughout the 40's, 50's, 60's and seventies and then came trickle down (not) economics and the attack on labor unions. But if your a 1%er.......................
 
I don't care if it is Fox, MSNBC, CNN, or anybody else. They are all corrupt. It is all about the money and ratings. Pathetic.

Why shouldn't they be? It's not as though the American people aspire to a higher level of virtue. People in the media are all members of the body politic, and there is no reason for them to be any better than the rest of us.
 
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. You will never see this article on the MSM-Mainstream Media. Gee, I wonder why?

I would assume that this is because paranoid schizophrenics are not their target audience.
 
I would assume that this is because paranoid schizophrenics are not their target audience.

I understand. When one's own ignorance blocks the thinking process, make something up. In the meantime, if ye be a seeker of wisdom and truth, you might read the Morley Safer article. Don't adjust your blinders, they're really working for you.
 
Why shouldn't they be? It's not as though the American people aspire to a higher level of virtue. People in the media are all members of the body politic, and there is no reason for them to be any better than the rest of us.

I only wish there were more people who held them to a higher standard. The "news" we get is bs
 
I only wish there were more people who held them to a higher standard. The "news" we get is bs

The only way is to shut them off. That hurts their money stream and requires they must inquire "why?' and rectify the problem. I haven't watched TV, with the exception of VHS and DVD movies since 1989. Information, news, gossip, nonsense, and entertainment is all available on the Internet. When an Intelligence invades the Internet, it becomes obvious quickly.
 
The only way is to shut them off. That hurts their money stream and requires they must inquire "why?' and rectify the problem. I haven't watched TV, with the exception of VHS and DVD movies since 1989. Information, news, gossip, nonsense, and entertainment is all available on the Internet. When an Intelligence invades the Internet, it becomes obvious quickly.

Yes, if it is on the Internet it must be true and nothing is more informative than VHS video tape. :lamo
 
Yes. It's run by the Illuminati and Bilderberg Group. Everyone should boycott the lying liberal media.

No, Angelina Jolie defeated the Illuminati in Tomb Raiders. You must have missed that report.:lol:
 
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