View Poll Results: Is MSM-Mainstream Media in the USA corrupted?

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  • Yes!

    29 60.42%
  • No!

    4 8.33%
  • Some of it is!

    10 20.83%
  • All of it is!

    7 14.58%
  • It is a bought and paid for commercial media!

    7 14.58%
  • You get what you pay for!

    3 6.25%
  • We are blessed with an honest, open media!

    2 4.17%
  • We are cursed with a "sold to the highest bidder" media!

    7 14.58%
  • Media investigation is obsolete!

    6 12.50%
  • What we read/hear/view is "fruit of a tainted tree!"

    8 16.67%
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Thread: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    It's a bunch of for-profit enterprises. That's all.
    I think it goes a little beyond for profit and means more heavily towards purposeful disinformation
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    I think it goes a little beyond for profit and means more heavily towards purposeful disinformation
    I don't.
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I don't.
    So they are making their profit by not serving the group's they profit from?
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    So they are making their profit by not serving the group's they profit from?
    They profit via ratings, page hits, and subscription numbers. So they profit from the people. And no, they don't "serve" the people, they serve their dollars.
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    They profit via ratings, page hits, and subscription numbers. So they profit from the people. And no, they don't "serve" the people, they serve their dollars.
    So you're saying they have no political role?

    Not Just News Corp.: Media Companies Have Long Made Political Donations
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Did I say that? I think almost every entity and every person has a political role. That doesn't mean every person or entity engages in purposeful disinformation, does it?

    Do you agree that there is quite a large middle ground between "no political role" and "purposeful disinformation"? It's not just one or the other.
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Did I say that? I think almost every entity and every person has a political role. That doesn't mean every person or entity engages in purposeful disinformation, does it?

    Do you agree that there is quite a large middle ground between "no political role" and "purposeful disinformation"? It's not just one or the other.
    In a normal context I would agree on a middle ground. In terms of deciding exactly what many people think (as many people do no digging outside of network "news") I would say there is no middle ground
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    In a normal context I would agree on a middle ground. In terms of deciding exactly what many people think (as many people do no digging outside of network "news") I would say there is no middle ground
    Well then of course we're never going to agree then. I don't think any organization has "no political role" nor do I think the media engages in "purposeful disinformation", because I think there are other things in the spectrum between them. If you don't...that's on you.
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Well then of course we're never going to agree then. I don't think any organization has "no political role" nor do I think the media engages in "purposeful disinformation", because I think there are other things in the spectrum between them. If you don't...that's on you.
    There are organizations that have middle ground in this spectrum. It would be foolish to say there isn't.

    The media however cannot be. They either serve the people with honest journalism or serve the state with disinformation
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    Re: If You Believe the Goverment, ‘You’re Stupid’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    There are organizations that have middle ground in this spectrum. It would be foolish to say there isn't.

    The media however cannot be. They either serve the people with honest journalism or serve the state with disinformation
    Or they serve neither, and just want ratings, which is the option I'm going with.
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