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2016 Republican Vice Presidential Primary (Hypothetical)

Your choice for Republican Vice Presidential Nomination, 2016

  • Bobby Jindal

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  • John Thune

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rob Portman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mary Fallin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jeb Bush

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • John Kasich

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  • Total voters
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I have repeatedly said that I want Cruz to win. I don't care about the gop 'label' winning. I want someone of my ideology to win. Ted Cruz is that. Stop being deceived and stop hating Ted Cruz. He's the best choice there is.

I hate it when people say something so stupid "oh you want Ted Cruz to win? I guess you don't want to win." that's the stupidest thing anyone could ever say to me. If you nominate Christie for President for the sake of electability, it isn't really winning because then I wouldn't have someone of my ideology winning. People need to elect defenders of freedom.

If Cruz is the candidate, the GOP will have to face yet another four years of "Democrat tyranny".

Face it, there's no chance of Cruz winning. Whether YOU like the guy or not is irrelevant. This is an obvious observation.
 
If Cruz is the candidate, the GOP will have to face yet another four years of "Democrat tyranny".

Face it, there's no chance of Cruz winning. Whether YOU like the guy or not is irrelevant. This is an obvious observation.

Why do people KEEP SAYING THAT? Do they not realize how WRONG they really are? Americans can't be that foolish or hateful to reject the good politicians but then glorify and vote for the corrupted? It's wrong and I still believe America can learn from their mistakes. Especially once the reality of Obamacare (AKA Obamadontcare) sets in.
 
Palin was somewhat of a surprise choice because she was never listed on McCain's short list. But names like former Homeland Security Secretary/former Gov. Tom Ridge, then-Connecticut U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, and then-Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty. BUT, he did suggest that Obama should have picked Hillary as a running mate. So obviously he wanted to pick a woman himself.

Not always do the poll numbers stay the same. They change with the candidates each election - as younger people who were 14 in the previous election are now 18 and can vote. And not to sound negative, but as older people and other people tend to die, or even people who are either busy or forget to or don't care to vote, the numbers change. We never get 100% of registered voters to vote. A lot of it is the campaign itself, for the undecided voters. Some are unwaveringly supporting their own party. But we can't think that someone is automatically just gonna win a state.

Some think LBJ helped JFK win Texas. But, it should be known that that doesn't always work, considering that the 2000 Democratic Vice Presidential Nominee, then-Vice President Al Gore - lost his own state of Tennessee.

2004 Democratic VP Nominee, North Carolina U.S. Sen. John Edwards lost his own state.

House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan the 2012 GOP VP Nominee lost his state of Wisconsin.

So that's an outdated theory. Just like not all incumbent Governors and Senators win re-election in their states.

Chris Christie is not even worth nominating. He's just a moderate. I don't care about catering to voters. Yes, I want my candidates to win. But my candidates are not defined by a title. They are defined by ideals. I care about educating people about why my ideals matter and they work better in practice, not just sound nice in theory.

If it's Hillary VS. Christie - realistically it could go either way but if they win I would possibly support former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson. He sought GOP Nod in 2012 but instead won the Libertarian Nomination. He was an effective two term Governor. Went into office in 1995 with a huge budget deficit, and left office 8 years later with a huge budget surplus. And he wants to legalize marijuana.

I voted for Johnson last year and know all about him. Yeah the numbers do not always play out, Ryan a congressman didn't have an attraction in Wisconsin than a senator or govenor would have had. If Romney had Tommy Thompson as his VP, I think Wisconsin might have been a different story. But you are right about the rest, they have to have been popular in their home state, Al Gore Sr. was popular in Tennessee and Al Gore Jr. won his senate seat there because of his fathers name and was a moderate during his 8 years in the senate. But his positions changed while VP, Tenneesee went Clinton/Gore both in 92 and 96 and Gore losing his home state in 2000 is what caused him to lose the election IMO, not Florida.
 
Why do people KEEP SAYING THAT? Do they not realize how WRONG they really are? Americans can't be that foolish or hateful to reject the good politicians but then glorify and vote for the corrupted? It's wrong and I still believe America can learn from their mistakes. Especially once the reality of Obamacare (AKA Obamadontcare) sets in.

I'm importing my post from the other thread to address your delusion:

Your opinion is irrelevant in a presidential race. The fact is that the only chance in hell the GOP have of winning is by putting up a pragmatic moderate.

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What's hard to understand? The average American doesn't think like you. They are hostile to Cruz and his grandiloquent Tea Party, especially after the Government shutdown.

The most recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that only 14% of Americans had a favorable opinion of Cruz. In fact, the polls showed that as Cruz' name recognition increased, his favorability ratings dropped.
 
I have repeatedly said that I want Cruz to win. I don't care about the gop 'label' winning. I want someone of my ideology to win. Ted Cruz is that.
Stop being deceived and stop hating Ted Cruz. He's the best choice there is.

I hate it when people say something so stupid "oh you want Ted Cruz to win? I guess you don't want to win." that's the stupidest thing anyone could ever say to me. If you nominate Christie for President for the sake of electability, it isn't really winning because then I wouldn't have someone of my ideology winning. People need to elect defenders of freedom.

I don't think Paul Ryan would be nominated and win nomination. But it is possible.




If you want the GOP to lose Ted Cruz is an excellent choice.

The only way that he will ever see the inside of the White House is as a guest.
 
I'm importing my post from the other thread to address your delusion:

That's because in that poll, 44% of Americans don't know him yet.

Ted Cruz
Strongly Approve 7%
Somewhat Approve 7%
Neutral 13%
Somewhat Disapprove 8%
Strongly Disapprove 20%
Don't Know/Unsure 44%

I think if the other 44% of people got to know Ted Cruz, they would like Ted Cruz. So he would then have a 58% approval rating, 28% disapproval rating. The other 13% who don't really have an opinion, I'm gonna say possibly half of them could vote for Ted Cruz, so that's another 7% right there, which means 65% of Americans are not against the idea of a President Ted Cruz. But if I add that extra 6% then you got 71%.

Just wait until the reality of Obamacare sets in. Just wait until people really get to know Ted Cruz and how good he is.

And just wait until Obama's approval ratings sink into the mid 20 percentile range. And when people see that Hillary Clinton let 4 Americans DIE in Ben "What difference does it make?" Ghazi.
 
If you want the GOP to lose Ted Cruz is an excellent choice.

The only way that he will ever see the inside of the White House is as a guest.

What is wrong with you? What is wrong with all of you? Are you zombies or something?

Were you born to be wrong or was it a trained habit?

I DON'T GIVE A DAMN about the GOP "party label" winning. I want America to stop supporting bad liberal policies. I want someone like Ted Cruz to be elected President. He's a wonderful choice for President and if you look into it you will see the same thing.
 
Why wasn't Susana Martinez, Governor of New Mexico, on the list? She is awesome, and she is a popular Republican Governor in a blue state!
 
Why wasn't Susana Martinez, Governor of New Mexico, on the list? She is awesome, and she is a popular Republican Governor in a blue state!

Because in 2012 she said that she wouldn't want to run, considering she would prefer to stay close to home in her state because she takes care of a her disabled sister.
 
Because in 2012 she said that she wouldn't want to run, considering she would prefer to stay close to home in her state because she takes care of a her disabled sister.

And Hillary has said many times that she is not interested in running, and although she hasn't yet publicly said she has changed her mind, people believe she will run. Time will give us an answer in both cases. :thumbs:

Greetings, Tothian. :2wave:
 
And Hillary has said many times that she is not interested in running, and although she hasn't yet publicly said she has changed her mind, people believe she will run. Time will give us an answer in both cases. :thumbs:

Greetings, Tothian. :2wave:

Hello!

And you could be right. With her poor health and failures as Secretary of State, and her enjoyment of being out of office or married to someone in office - which hasn't been since over 30 years - she has mentioned that she enjoys it too much now. So she might be comfortable with that as well as running her Clinton Family Foundation - or whatever it is they are calling it now - as it gives her more independence and her own way to help out.
 
I think if the other 44% of people got to know Ted Cruz, they would like Ted Cruz. So he would then have a 58% approval rating,

Lol. I chuckled. I really did.
 
I'm glad you laughed at that. Because it'll make it that much funnier when it really does happen. lol

You're either extremely naive, have no clue how polls work or are politically ignorant. I'll give you 3 tips - 1) the Tea Party doesn't have 60% approval ratings 2) you don't attribute the unknown percentage on a poll to whatever narrative suits you and 3) No president has gotten 71% since the 80s and that was Reagan. Cruz is no Reagan - not even close.
 
You're either extremely naive, have no clue how polls work or are politically ignorant. I'll give you 3 tips - 1) the Tea Party doesn't have 60% approval ratings 2) you don't attribute the unknown percentage on a poll to whatever narrative suits you and 3) No president has gotten 71% since the 80s and that was Reagan. Cruz is no Reagan - not even close.

1A- Not yet, but that's only with media's deception. But the truth will come out once all of the liberal policies continue to fail America.
1B- Not every voter votes based on whether a candidate is Tea Party or not. You cannot legitimately bash their common sense policies, so instead you just call the "people" crazy.

2- I was being fair by not adding more.

3- You got that right. Ted Cruz is the new and improved Ronald Reagan.
 
1A- Not yet, but that's only with media's deception.

Ah, yes, the evil media bruhaha.

1B- Not every voter votes based on whether a candidate is Tea Party or not. You cannot legitimately bash their common sense policies, so instead you just call the "people" crazy.
2- I was being fair by not adding more.

I was right. You have absolutely no clue how polling works.

3- You got that right. Ted Cruz is the new and improved Ronald Reagan.

Well, at least we know that once the primaries are over, Ted Cruz goes into obscurity and you're no longer getting paid to post, you'll disappear.
 
The best news about the 2018 elections will be when one-termer TEA Cruz loses to Blue-State Texan Julian Castro..
While I'm on the Senate, check out 3rd partier Pressler running against Repub Rounds and the Dem in 2014 in SD .
 
Ah, yes, the evil media bruhaha.

Soon, the Illuminati be destroyed once people see the real truth.

I was right. You have absolutely no clue how polling works.

You were wrong. I know exactly how polling works. But I also know what is right and wrong. Poll numbers just tell us how effective we are in promoting the right message.

Well, at least we know that once the primaries are over, Ted Cruz goes into obscurity and you're no longer getting paid to post, you'll disappear.

I don't get paid to do that. And no. Look into my spirit and you will see who I am.

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Martinez, Governor of New Mexico for VP; Scott Walker of Wisconsin for Potus.
 
What is wrong with you? What is wrong with all of you? Are you zombies or something?

Were you born to be wrong or was it a trained habit?

I DON'T GIVE A DAMN about the GOP "party label" winning. I want America to stop supporting bad liberal policies. I
want someone like Ted Cruz to be elected President. He's a wonderful choice for President and if you look into it you will see the same thing.




That's your opinion.

Which you are entitled to and I will ignore.

Ted Cruz, like a number of people on the right is on the wrong(Losing.) side of every social issue in the USA.

And those are not the only reasons that I and a lot of other Americans will never vote for Ted Cruz or anyone who thinks like him.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
No Sarah Palin on the list? thats not right!

I am hoping for a Paul/Palin ticket. I can see the slogan right now....... "PP for America".
 
Tothian, you're so naive, but I'll let you bask in your innocence.

I think if the other 44% of people got to know Ted Cruz, they would like Ted Cruz. So he would then have a 58% approval rating, 28% disapproval rating. The other 13% who don't really have an opinion, I'm gonna say possibly half of them could vote for Ted Cruz, so that's another 7% right there, which means 65% of Americans are not against the idea of a President Ted Cruz. But if I add that extra 6% then you got 71%.

Hahahaahahahahaa

You are joking, right? If not, I feel sorry for you. This is deluded.
 
I voted Scott Walker. He's part of the Tea Party and he does have experience, both as a Governor, and also before being Governor, he was originally a member of the State Assembly - elected in his late mid 20's, served 9 years, then has been a County Executive for over 8 years. Assuming he is re-elected in 2014 - in which he does lead - despite slim lead it is a consistent lead - he will have been Governor for 6 years by the 2016 election.

Ted Cruz is actually my top choice for President. So to balance my ideological favorite with someone who has executive experience, I think that would be good too.

Cruz/Walker 2016.
I would LOVE that ticket as well....but for different reasons.
 
I would LOVE that ticket as well....but for different reasons.

This.

Tothian, your strategy of Cruz/Walker is ingenious... to give the Democrats another 4 years in the White House.
 
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