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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I've got an anti-immigration attitude. Could you elaborate on why you think any of my logic is faulty. Point out a specific logical fallacy I've made or something. Let's discuss.

    And anti-immigration attitudes should come and go. For instance, during a booming economy when there is a shortage in the labor force, allowing immigration is a good policy. However, at this point in time the exact opposite is true. There is no shortage of workers, there is a shortage of available jobs. We have a depressed economy and unemployment is rampant. Especially among young males in the 18-25 demographic.
    If it is more of a calculating attitude, I have more respect for that. If it is literally ascribing character or morality onto the immigrants themselves, it is really stupid. It never turns out to be accurate, it always looks bad when you want the image of being open-armed, and so forth.
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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I think we should change our official language to Spanish, teach Spanish in schools, force all kids to read Don Quixote in Spanish before graduating high school and grant citizenship to any citizen of Mexico, Cuba or Canada just for applying.

    Let's face it. The United States culture sucks. Give me, give me, give me and give me more. I deserve it for three reasons. Number 1...... Well.... just give it to me. It's mine.

    A huge influx of Mexican immigrants could offer a positive influence on our culture. I think immigration standards could remain the same for other countries. I just think it should be as simple as filing out an one page form for Mexican, Cuban and Canadians to move into our country.
    Thanks, but I can't come up with reason one to move from Canada to the US.
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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Please explain the reasoning for your answer
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    Anyone who is in touch with reality and the daily news knows that people are coming to the USA with or without permission.

    I doubt that telling them to stop coming will have any measurable effect.

    The only way that the USA will ever slow down the flow of these people into the USA is by putting better security in place at the borders.

    I predict that will not happen anytime soon because of the monetary and political costs involved

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am all for legal immigration.But it must be restricted.

    1. Only those who want to be Americans should be allowed to have green cards and eventually be citizens. That means no dual or multi citizenship,they must speak English or be in the process of learning English and be fluent by they time they get their citizenship.They do not have have to speak like a grammar fag/nazi, English, text book or English teacher.

    2.The number of people allowed in should be seriously controlled so that they are not used to artificially keep wages low and so that the local population can easily absorb them.



    5.All immigrants must be able to financially support themselves and their children without any tax payer funded assistance.
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    This and some other things in your comment are already covered by current U.S. law.

    You need to do a little research.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    "Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, 
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. 
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: 
I lift my lamp beside the golden door. "
    The Statue of Liberty has never dictated American immigration policy. You were under the impression that it did?
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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    "Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, 
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. 
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: 
I lift my lamp beside the golden door. "
    A poem doesn't dictate immigration policy and that poem was written before things like welfare,foodstamps, and the immigration and nationality act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children were invented.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A poem doesn't dictate immigration policy and that poem was written before things like welfare,foodstamps, and the immigration and nationality act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children were invented.
    Obviously the poem doesn't dictate policy and some imported copper statue doesn't hold any legal weight.

    These are the symptoms of liberty, not the causes.

    And as for things like food-stamps and the nationality act of 1965, those are but minor details in the grand scheme of this country being a beacon of hope and freedom for people all around the world. This is truly a place where ANYONE can come and make something of themselves.

    In my opinion that is the single most important attribute of the United States.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The Statue of Liberty has never dictated American immigration policy. You were under the impression that it did?
    Again, symptom of liberty, not the cause.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    How so?
    Our rich heritage of immigration and of being a melting pot, makes us stronger.

    This same heritage has also made us freer and more open to all of the people in the world.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    A huge influx of Mexican immigrants could offer a positive influence on our culture. I think immigration standards could remain the same for other countries. I just think it should be as simple as filing out an one page form for Mexican, Cuban and Canadians to move into our country.
    Honestly, it's one small continent.

    An extremely simple border system seems to work well within Europe. Why should it not apply here, especially where so much of our border(s) are extremely harsh, rural and difficult/ expensive to patrol. The billions spent on border protection would me much better saved or spent on local communities.

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