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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    only if they speak English, can read and write while possessing some employable skill where they can contribute to the country financially

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    So do you suppose the USA would necessarily become just like those countries if it simply stopped immigration?

    Why or why not?

    Think!
    Nope, I simply wanted to point out how redicilous the concept of stoping imigration is.

    Especialy for a country like the US.

    What is your last name? Is it Italian, German, Irish, English, Scandinavian, Polish or even other?

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Please explain the reasoning for your answer.
    I am all for legal immigration.But it must be restricted.

    1. Only those who want to be Americans should be allowed to have green cards and eventually be citizens. That means no dual or multi citizenship,they must speak English or be in the process of learning English and be fluent by they time they get their citizenship.They do not have have to speak like a grammar fag/nazi, English, text book or English teacher.

    2.The number of people allowed in should be seriously controlled so that they are not used to artificially keep wages low and so that the local population can easily absorb them.

    3.We do not allow anyone from countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with into the US.After all not all illegals sneak across the border, many of them get visas to come in and deliberately overstay them. So logic would dictate that we do not allow anyone from problem countries until most of their citizens who are here illegally are returned.

    4.We do not allow anyone into the US who has a serious disease or illness, pregnant, can't pass a criminal background check.

    5.All immigrants must be able to financially support themselves and their children without any tax payer funded assistance.
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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    First, make attempting to cross our borders illegally an exercise in futility.

    Legal immigration with ease and incentives given certain criteria. Gives incentive for highly educated and skilled individuals to come, and we need them. I don't mind poaching the best and brightest from the rest of the world. Doctors, scientists, archaeologists, educators, engineers, etc etc. Make them Americans. Fine by me. Obviously they can bring their families. One brilliant engineer is worth it if he/she is bringing a family of 9. However a family of 9 unskilled people from the third world only creates a larger burden. I'm sorry if that offends people, but it's quite true.

    Legal immigration under normal circumstances possible, but it needs to be under scrutiny for those that don't offer the U.S. more. Switzerland is a great example. Those that offer something for the better get fast tracked.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Legal immigration with ease and incentives given certain criteria. Gives incentive for highly educated and skilled individuals to come, and we need them.
    No, we don't need them. I don't buy that ridiculous mantra for a nanosecond because there is absolutely no evidence to support it.

    And another thing, you mention "highly educated" individuals. A huge number of those people are only "highly educated" because they were in the USA on a student visa, being educated in an American university.
    They filled seat that an American could have filled.

    And practically all of those universities continue to receive funding from the American taxpayers. To continue issuing student visas by the thousands every year when the US economy has been in a depression for nearly a decade borders on treason.

    All it does is screw young Americans. You know, that important demographic that is over 50% unemployed or underemployed right now through no fault of their own. Did you forget about them?

    Or perhaps you just don't give a **** about them. You care more about foreigners.
    Last edited by Muhammed; 12-20-13 at 01:29 AM.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Legalize illegal immigration, you know like they did back when my family came over here from Ireland, and allow anyone & everyone in.

    Save untold billions on border enforcement and put that money into municipal police departments (with a focus on community policing, where crime is a problem). Further, take the billions saved on futile border enforcement and place some if it directly back into peoples pockets, with saved tax dollars.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I generally oppose allowing in people from countries with theocratic governments and extreme theocratic intolerant societies.
    Have you ever considered that many of the people trying to leave those countries are actually looking to escape those theocratic and intolerant societies?

    The Mayflower anyone?

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    No, we don't need them. I don't buy that ridiculous mantra for a nanosecond because there is absolutely no evidence to support it.

    And another thing, you mention "highly educated" individuals. A huge number of those people are only "highly educated" because they were in the USA on a student visa, being educated in an American university.
    They filled seat an American could have filled.

    And practically all of those universities continue to receive funding from the American taxpayers. To continue issuing student visas by the thousands every year when the US economy has been in a depression for nearly a decade borders on treason.

    All it does is screw young Americans. You know, that important demograph that is over 50% unemployed or underemployed right now through no fault of their own. Did you forget about them?

    Or perhaps you just don't give a **** about them. You care more about foreigners.
    Oh I could care less about foreigners. We are flooded by them in the southwest yearly. I say, if any are going to come in...make them Americans, and ensure that they are major contributors to our society. There's no such thing as too much intelligence. There is such a thing of too much stupidity. This country is flooded with foreign dimwits, most illegal. They steal American jobs. Let's face it, you can never have enough brilliant scientists, engineers, etc. If they come here, make it so that the only way they are coming is if they renounce former citizenship and become American.

    I agree, we should have a closed policy much like the Swiss. Their culture is strong, fiercely nationalistic and proud. We could use a lot of that around here, unfortunately this place isn't a melting pot anymore, it's turned into some warped united nations where everyone is something else and wants to fly 'their countries' flag. I say, if you don't fly the stars and stripes, go back to wherever the hell you came from. There's plenty of people here that love it and were robbed of a job, and there are plenty of people that want to say they are American, and yet can't. Scandinavian countries are feeling the effects now of the policies we currently have in place. We need to put an end to our policies of late, they are deteriorating the fabric of this country. If you want to work/go to school/contribute...you're either becoming an American, or you can turn back around. If you try to enter illegally, face...meet electric fence. It takes a net worth and education to become a Swiss citizen. We should hold a standard much like that.

    I think you and I are more on the same page than you think.

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The poor, drug-addicted, criminally-oriented immigrant, they can take a hike.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    4.We do not allow anyone into the US who has a serious disease or illness, pregnant, can't pass a criminal background check.
    "Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, 
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. 
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: 
I lift my lamp beside the golden door. "

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    Re: Do you think the US should continue to allow immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Legalize illegal immigration, you know like they did back when my family came over here from Ireland, and allow anyone & everyone in.

    Save untold billions on border enforcement and put that money into municipal police departments (with a focus on community policing, where crime is a problem). Further, take the billions saved on futile border enforcement and place some if it directly back into peoples pockets, with saved tax dollars.
    Problem here, the people coming here are clueless concerning America. They typically support the politicians that glorify "vote for me and everything will be free". Spend-it-all-Deval (MA governor) won in a landslide primarily due to uneducated and largely state dependent areas. These areas are flooded with indoctrinated generations of people that came from countries that were largely socialist/corrupt/etc. Free handouts are golden tickets in these cultures. They have no business being involved in the American political system, as their votes will lead to the deterioration of our current system...much like the countries they came from.

    This isn't a race thing. Don't start with that. This is purely numbers and facts.

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