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  • Older than 21. Raise it even higher!

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't agree. Different people mature at different levels. So you must go with the oldest age in order to be sure. You always err on the side of caution. That is a good rule to follow.
    I've known 40 year olds that haven't matured yet, I guess we should make the legal adult age 40 just to cater to the lowest common denominator.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Parents, not the government, should decide when their kids can drink.
    That's a terrible idea. Some people are prone to becoming alcoholics. In general at age 21 a person can make a rational decision to take on the risk of being a life long dependent of alcohol. The parent shouldn't be the one to introduce their kids to alcohol. That's really disturbing. Your parents shouldn't be allowed to make a bad decision on your behalf. You should be allowed to make a bad decision like that on your own.

    I think adulthood should be 21 for all types of legal matters. I think defining adulthood at age 18 had a more practical motive rather than defining biological adulthood. Perhaps they wanted the votes of 18-20 year olds. Perhaps they wanted people marrying younger to have more kids. I think most people in the mental health field would agree that 21 is a more accurate age to define adulthood than 18. I think anybody who can think far enough back to being 18, they would agree too.

    Although I voted for option 1. Bring back prohibition. Alcohol isn't some magical great thing. People use it as entertainment and destroy their body over time. People use it to enhance their capability to engage socially which destroys any opportunity to develop socially. Alcohol isn't some magic potion that makes our world a much more harmonious place to live. Alcohol is destructive to many people throughout our country. Prohibition was a great long term solution to a widespread problem that was way worse in the early years of America. Prohibition reduced the portion of the population that was negatively affected by alcohol. The only reason alcohol is legal today is because prohibition could not be enforced. It is not legal because it is a great thing for soldiers to drink while on leave. Nobody can sing the praises of alcohol. It is only managed at a level that is practical and functional. Alcohol cannot be managed based upon it's virtues and merits. That makes little sense.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    That's a terrible idea. Some people are prone to becoming alcoholics. In general at age 21 a person can make a rational decision to take on the risk of being a life long dependent of alcohol. The parent shouldn't be the one to introduce their kids to alcohol. That's really disturbing. Your parents shouldn't be allowed to make a bad decision on your behalf. You should be allowed to make a bad decision like that on your own.

    I think adulthood should be 21 for all types of legal matters. I think defining adulthood at age 18 had a more practical motive rather than defining biological adulthood. Perhaps they wanted the votes of 18-20 year olds. Perhaps they wanted people marrying younger to have more kids. I think most people in the mental health field would agree that 21 is a more accurate age to define adulthood than 18. I think anybody who can think far enough back to being 18, they would agree too.

    Although I voted for option 1. Bring back prohibition. Alcohol isn't some magical great thing. People use it as entertainment and destroy their body over time. People use it to enhance their capability to engage socially which destroys any opportunity to develop socially. Alcohol isn't some magic potion that makes our world a much more harmonious place to live. Alcohol is destructive to many people throughout our country. Prohibition was a great long term solution to a widespread problem that was way worse in the early years of America. Prohibition reduced the portion of the population that was negatively affected by alcohol. The only reason alcohol is legal today is because prohibition could not be enforced. It is not legal because it is a great thing for soldiers to drink while on leave. Nobody can sing the praises of alcohol. It is only managed at a level that is practical and functional. Alcohol cannot be managed based upon it's virtues and merits. That makes little sense.
    You don't have to like alcohol but the government doesn't really need to be dictating who should or shouldn't drink it. That person makes a choice and should have the freedom to decide if that is what they want to do.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I've known 40 year olds that haven't matured yet, I guess we should make the legal adult age 40 just to cater to the lowest common denominator.
    Did you purposefully ignore the word "generally." We use the age when the majority of people are matured. You are talking about outliers, and no one is talking about them. There are outliers with everything.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Quite simply wrong.

    Raising the drinking age to 21 lowered traffic accidents and related deaths all over the USA.

    No one is forced to join the USA's all-volunteer military.

    Allowing young people to drink alcohol is a totally unrelated issue which impacts everyone who uses our nation's highway's and roads.

    Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Did you purposefully ignore the word "generally." We use the age when the majority of people are matured. You are talking about outliers, and no one is talking about them. There are outliers with everything.
    You didn't use the word "generally".

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't agree. Different people mature at different levels. So you must go with the oldest age in order to be sure. You always err on the side of caution. That is a good rule to follow.
    I don't know how else that statement can be interpreted other than catering to the lowest common denominator and banning everything until everyone is mature enough to use it.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You didn't use the word "generally".



    I don't know how else that statement can be interpreted other than catering to the lowest common denominator and banning everything until everyone is mature enough to use it.
    I've used the word generally throughout this discussion. I didn't realize I had to use it every single time.

    That's foolish. Waiting until 21 is not catering to the lowest common denominator in any way. You should really brush up on the latest data about the teenage brain and its capabilities and limitations. Then maybe you could participate in the discussion in a productive manner.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Raising the drinking age to 21 lowered traffic accidents and related deaths all over the USA.
    Got any proof to support that ridiculous assertion?

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Got any proof to support that ridiculous assertion?



    Don't need any proof, it's a well known fact.

    Lets see you prove that it didn't happen.

    Anyone who wants to lower the drinking age in the USA will go to their grave unhappy, because that won't be happening any time soon.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I've used the word generally throughout this discussion. I didn't realize I had to use it every single time.

    That's foolish. Waiting until 21 is not catering to the lowest common denominator in any way. You should really brush up on the latest data about the teenage brain and its capabilities and limitations. Then maybe you could participate in the discussion in a productive manner.
    Yes it is. I was a grown ass man by the time I was 17, when I enlisted in the Army, married at 19, and went to Afghanistan 2 weeks later. By the time I was 21 I had more life experience than a lot of people get in their entire lives. To try to tell me I wasn't responsible enough to make my own decisions is the height of the paternalistic bull**** that you're pushing. You do not know what is best for everyone, so stop trying to act like you do.

    Luckily I was stationed in a country that didn't have draconian drinking laws governed by MADD and was able to responsibly consume some alcohol like the adult I was. And if you think virtually every 18-21 year old American teenager isn't drinking, you're obviously out of touch.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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