View Poll Results: What should the legal drinking age be?

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    4 3.28%
  • Older than 21. Raise it even higher!

    3 2.46%
  • Leave it at 21 (in the USA).

    23 18.85%
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    7 5.74%
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    54 44.26%
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    3 2.46%
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    4 3.28%
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Thread: Legal drinking age?

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not from the numbers I've seen. Even looking at this poll, most people believe teens should be allowed access to alcohol younger than 21.
    And they'll be sorry. The FACT is that 18-year-olds are just not adults. They are naturally risk takers. You can deny this all day, but it doesn't change the facts.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would rather teach my child by showing him how stupid drunk people act and how foolish they are, how they kill themselves slowly and painfully and hurt everyone around them, and hope that my child would never touch it. I don't have a problem with moderation but a lot of people are apparently not capable of that. That is obvious.
    Just to point out - the two highlighted sections are somewhat mutually exclusive. Do you not have a problem with your child drinking in moderation, or do you want him to never touch the stuff?

    Your child is going to be either responsible or not responsible and introducing him to drinking isn't going to change that.
    It's not magic or genes. Children are responsible when they are taught to be responsible. As I intend to teach my children, including with alcohol, vehicles, finances, other people, firearms, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would rather teach my child by showing him how stupid drunk people act and how foolish they are, how they kill themselves slowly and painfully and hurt everyone around them, and hope that my child would never touch it. I don't have a problem with moderation but a lot of people are apparently not capable of that. That is obvious.

    Your child is going to be either responsible or not responsible and introducing him to drinking isn't going to change that.
    If you are allowing your children to drink to the point of being "stupidly drunk" then that is not teaching them responsible drinking. But completely sheltering them from it or only showing the bad will confuse them once they are out on their own. They will get conflicting information and likely wish to see which is more accurate, leading to stupid decisions being made and no experience for dealing with things.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Just to point out - the two highlighted sections are somewhat mutually exclusive. Do you not have a problem with your child drinking in moderation, or do you want him to never touch the stuff?



    It's not magic or genes. Children are responsible when they are taught to be responsible. As I intend to teach my children, including with alcohol, vehicles, finances, other people, firearms, etc.
    The problem is, alcohol is an addictive poison. A firearm is not. A vehicle is not. Finances are not. Do you understand that?

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, again, this is NOT Candy Land. Teens are going to drink with their friends at unsupervised parties. My God!!!
    So, in other words, unless they learn how to drink at home, they will be learning how to drink at unsupervised teen parties? And you think that the second is preferable to the first?

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And they'll be sorry. The FACT is that 18-year-olds are just not adults. They are naturally risk takers. You can deny this all day, but it doesn't change the facts.
    Legally, they are adults. And moving the age of maturity up only leads to moving the age of actual maturity up, which just puts off the problems for a later time.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If you are allowing your children to drink to the point of being "stupidly drunk" then that is not teaching them responsible drinking. But completely sheltering them from it or only showing the bad will confuse them once they are out on their own. They will get conflicting information and likely wish to see which is more accurate, leading to stupid decisions being made and no experience for dealing with things.
    Kids are still going to do this. Most parents teach their children to not drink and drive, but the kids do it anyway. That is what kids do when they are teens too, they defy their parents. It's a natural part of growing up, which also shows that they are NOT grown ups yet.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Legally, they are adults. And moving the age of maturity up only leads to moving the age of actual maturity up, which just puts off the problems for a later time.
    Legally schmeagally. Like I said, the latest scientific data shows they are not adults.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Go to the bar district of any college town--or better yet, read any of those towns' police reports--and then let's discuss teenaged drinking.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The problem is, alcohol is an addictive poison.
    No it's not. It can become addicting, as can gambling, porn, or debating online. But I drink on a regular basis and I seem to be neither addicted nor particularly poisoned.

    A firearm is not. A vehicle is not. Finances are not. Do you understand that?
    Finances can absolutely become addictive - credit card / debt / spending addiction is a huge problem in our society, not least because we do not like to talk about it much and thus do not have well-developed public means to deal with it and public shame to push people into it.

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