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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    21 for the States (it's their law, after all), but 18 for Federal.

    Allowing (since the issues are conflated) military members to drink on-base will reduce the problems and incidents, as well as the need to expend manpower, time, and resources hunting down 19 year olds with a six-pack.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I've already proven my point well above and beyond anything you have done on this thread. I've posted links supporting my opinions with scientists who have done actual studies which conclusions agree with my assessments about the typical teen brain. It is impossible to study every single teen, so we use the data that we have, and so far it disagrees with your assessments.
    No it doesn't disagree with me at all. It shows problems, that are there despite laws restricting drinking. The same problems that those who are legally allowed to drink face. You haven't proven anything except that yes, teenagers are not that responsible and are willing to break the law to show how irresponsible they are. Instead of making laws to restrict their learning, we need to encourage their learning. It is most likely that the problem of irresponsible drinking has simply been pushed up to older ages, expanding the problem in fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it doesn't disagree with me at all. It shows problems, that are there despite laws restricting drinking. The same problems that those who are legally allowed to drink face. You haven't proven anything except that yes, teenagers are not that responsible and are willing to break the law to show how irresponsible they are. Instead of making laws to restrict their learning, we need to encourage their learning. It is most likely that the problem of irresponsible drinking has simply been pushed up to older ages, expanding the problem in fact.
    Don't you get it? Most parents are NOT going to do this and it would lead to even MORE carnage on the roads and elsewhere. There is absolutely NO reason to allow children to drink legally. No reason at ALL.

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    I mean seriously! Look at the problems we have NOW. Lowering the drinking age is NOT going to make parents and children more responsible. I can't see how anyone can argue that perspective.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Don't you get it? Most parents are NOT going to do this and it would lead to even MORE carnage on the roads and elsewhere. There is absolutely NO reason to allow children to drink legally. No reason at ALL.
    Many parents already do. Many parents are already very good at teaching their children to drink responsibly and that is why their children do not become statistics in the teen drinking "problem".
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    21 for the States (it's their law, after all), but 18 for Federal.

    Allowing (since the issues are conflated) military members to drink on-base will reduce the problems and incidents, as well as the need to expend manpower, time, and resources hunting down 19 year olds with a six-pack.
    Although I don't agree with the law for 21, it was done because it is tied to highway funding through the federal government. I don't agree that 18 year olds should be denied being treated as legal adults just because of their age, even by the states, but at the very least, the states should not be basically strongarmed or bribed (whichever you want to look at it) to have their drinking ages at 21.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I would rather raise the driving age personally.

    And no one wants anyone drinking and driving, but laws restricting drinking from all those under 21 does not prevent people, even teens from drinking and driving.
    You would rather raise the driving age? Tell me, how are some teens going to get back and forth to school and work without a car or drivers license? A drivers license is certainly more advantageous than a drinking habit. I think we should allow teens driving through a staged program, kind of like a permit program but more strict. Read this link. There are some very interesting correlations made here.

    CDC - Teen Drivers Fact Sheet - Motor Vehicle Safety

    However, to lower the drinking age is just completely counterproductive. A really dumb idea IMO.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Although I don't agree with the law for 21, it was done because it is tied to highway funding through the federal government. I don't agree that 18 year olds should be denied being treated as legal adults just because of their age, even by the states, but at the very least, the states should not be basically strongarmed or bribed (whichever you want to look at it) to have their drinking ages at 21.
    According to most recent studies, they probably should NOT be considered adults until at least age 21, and if you've known many TYPICAL 18-year-olds you might agree.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Although I don't agree with the law for 21, it was done because it is tied to highway funding through the federal government. I don't agree that 18 year olds should be denied being treated as legal adults just because of their age, even by the states, but at the very least, the states should not be basically strongarmed or bribed (whichever you want to look at it) to have their drinking ages at 21.
    Oh yeah, implicit in the federal govt lowering it's drinking age is that it should also untie highway funds from the state requirement. good catch.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You would rather raise the driving age? Tell me, how are some teens going to get back and forth to school and work without a car or drivers license? A drivers license is certainly more advantageous than a drinking habit. I think we should allow teens driving through a staged program, kind of like a permit program but more strict. Read this link. There are some very interesting correlations made here.

    CDC - Teen Drivers Fact Sheet - Motor Vehicle Safety

    However, to lower the drinking age is just completely counterproductive. A really dumb idea IMO.
    Bus, walk, parents, relatives. I haven't had a license my whole life and I make it and have worked. But many accidents that are caused by teens are due to them being teen drivers, not because of alcohol. We can see this in the fact that drinking and driving related teen accidents went down by about 50% while non-alcohol related incidents went up by much higher amounts. Why? Because it wasn't really the alcohol causing the accidents to begin with (for the most part) but rather inexperienced drivers.

    But lowering the drinking age to where it should be in the first place is what is right. You can't prove that it would cause any significant problems.

    But I wouldn't be opposed to a licensing to drink system either. I have in fact thought of such a program in the past. Giving people a license to purchase alcohol at 18 and restricting that license for any alcohol related incident.
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