View Poll Results: What should the legal drinking age be?

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  • Older than 21. Raise it even higher!

    3 2.46%
  • Leave it at 21 (in the USA).

    23 18.85%
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    7 5.74%
  • 18

    54 44.26%
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    4 3.28%
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Thread: Legal drinking age?

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It really comes down to you thinking you have the right to be somebody else's mother, when you don't. An 18 year old is an adult, legally, and they have a right to do with their bodies as they please and make adult decisions.

    If you want to be intellectually consistent you should want to have the legal adult age moved to 21 because you don't believe 18 year olds are adult enough to make their own decisions.
    That depends on whether or not THEIR actions effect others in society.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The fact is that kids here in America like to party. In places like Russia where there is really no enforced drinking age, alcoholism is a HUGE problem.
    And in other places where the drinking age is lower or there is no drinking age at all, but children are raised to drink responsibly, taught the dangers of alcohol, but still given supervised access to it, there is not nearly the problems we have, particularly with binge drinking or alcoholism.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That depends on whether or not THEIR actions effect others in society.
    How does a 21 year old killing someone while drunk differ from an 18 year old killing someone while drunk? Drinking alcohol, in and of itself, does not harm anyone except potentially the user.

    Why do you feel like you have the right to tell other adults what decisions to make with their body? Who are you exactly?
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I...did not know that...(in my best Johnny Carson voice)
    45 States That Allow Underage (under 21) Alcohol Consumption - Drinking Age - ProCon.org

    Heck, it is over half the states when it is supervised by parents, and another half dozen that allow it without supervision (still must be on private property).
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    yes, it's about alcohol and the drinking age. I may have helped get it off track, so let's see if I can help get it back:

    The age of adulthood is the issue, and the argument is that, if 18 is the magic age for voting, soldiering, gun ownership, then why not for alcohol as well?

    How is it that a young person can drive at 16, buy cigarettes at 18, but not drink until 21? It is an interesting question, and the answers are not so much logical as they are political.

    The answer? There isn't one, as not everyone matures at the same time. Personally, I'd keep the driving age where it is, but not allow an inexperienced driver to haul other youth around (based on how teens tend to act when with other teens), raise the age for tobacco to 21, along with alcohol, to discourage addiction and give the developing mind a few more years before being confronted by the choice of responsible vs. irresponsible drinking, but keep the age for soldiering at 18, as they are more moldable than are older people.
    As for voting, sometimes I think five year olds could do a better job of it that we adults have, but that's yet another issue.
    I agree with raising the age across the board. Why so many people FIGHT against that, I have no clue. Whether they like it or not, children today are NOT like they were 50 or 100 years ago. With advancements in technology, life has become easier, and that is reflected in the fact that children remain children for much longer than in the past because there is no NEED to hurry up and become an adult and start a family, and drinking and things like that a lot of times will interfere in their development.

    That statistics show that teens and young adults are the most risky group when it comes to car accidents to an incredible degree. They make up less than 10% of the driving population yet are responsible for more than 30% of all car accidents. I can't see those numbers improving when you add alcohol.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And in other places where the drinking age is lower or there is no drinking age at all, but children are raised to drink responsibly, taught the dangers of alcohol, but still given supervised access to it, there is not nearly the problems we have, particularly with binge drinking or alcoholism.
    Obviously, you missed my link about the problems in Russia which are NOT new. Fifteen year old children dying from alcohol-related deaths?

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Obviously, you missed my link about the problems in Russia which are NOT new. Fifteen year old children dying from alcohol-related deaths?
    Why does anyone give a **** about Russia? Like we're anything like them? What about almost every country in Europe that has 16 for beer and wine and 18 for hard alcohol, yet still has dramatically less alcohol incidents than we do?
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    45 States That Allow Underage (under 21) Alcohol Consumption - Drinking Age - ProCon.org

    Heck, it is over half the states when it is supervised by parents, and another half dozen that allow it without supervision (still must be on private property).
    Well you're a plethora of information...where were you 25 years ago when I needed ya...

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Why does anyone give a **** about Russia? Like we're anything like them? What about almost every country in Europe that has 16 for beer and wine and 18 for hard alcohol, yet still has dramatically less alcohol incidents than we do?
    It shows the detrimental effects rampant alcoholism can have on a society. DERP. Our kids like to party. I don't know. Maybe you've been gone for a while, but I was a teenager who grew up here in the United States with firsthand experience with kids and alcohol and how they behave when they're drunk.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That stats work against you.
    I simply know that it is better to teach through example or at least with a longer leash than it is to tell teens that they can't drink at all, up til they reach an age where they are already on their own. Most teens by 21 are in college or at least out of the house. It is much harder to teach someone who is not fully mature how to drink responsibly when you are no longer a major influence in their learning processes.
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