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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, and that is hyperbole. How many people die from over consumption of water as opposed to alcohol? It is just not a valid argument.
    Lots of people die of over consumption of food, for example. The fact of the matter is that alcohol is not harmful to healthy adults when taken in moderation. There is evidence, in fact, that it prevents heart disease and some form of cancer.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Lots of people die of over consumption of food, for example. The fact of the matter is that alcohol is not harmful to healthy adults when taken in moderation. There is evidence, in fact, that it prevents heart disease and some form of cancer.
    Look, the thread is not about food or water or anything else. It's about alcohol and it's effects on young people and whether or not we should lower the drinking age. I say no, and I've posted evidence to back my opinion. Your post really doesn't address anything I've posted.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, and that is hyperbole. How many people die from over consumption of water as opposed to alcohol? It is just not a valid argument.
    At least one has in the last 10 years. This woman died because this radio station was holding a contest "Hold your wee for a WII". She didn't even win and she died from "water intoxication".

    Strange but True: Drinking Too Much Water Can Kill: Scientific American
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    At least one has in the last 10 years. This woman died because this radio station was holding a contest "Hold your wee for a WII". She didn't even win and she died from "water intoxication".

    Strange but True: Drinking Too Much Water Can Kill: Scientific American
    I remember that. And I think I read of a similar tragedy in the UK at the Daily Mail. But these stories made news because death from drinking too much water is so exceedingly rare. Deaths in which alcohol was a factor are all too common.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    At least one has in the last 10 years. This woman died because this radio station was holding a contest "Hold your wee for a WII". She didn't even win and she died from "water intoxication".

    Strange but True: Drinking Too Much Water Can Kill: Scientific American
    I never said it didn't happen. This is not what the thread is about. YOU guys are going off topic, and it's annoying. The topic is alcohol and it's effects on young people and whether or not we should lower the drinking AGAIN.

    Not to mention, HOW many people die from water as opposed to alcohol? This argument is completely BOGUS!

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I never said it didn't happen. This is not what the thread is about. YOU guys are going off topic, and it's annoying. The topic is alcohol and it's effects on young people and whether or not we should lower the drinking AGAIN.

    Not to mention, HOW many people die from water as opposed to alcohol? This argument is completely BOGUS!
    Plenty of things affect young people negatively. But that is why we teach people to be responsible with those things. You cannot teach them to be responsible by completely restricting such things from them.

    And yes, we should lower the drinking age because it is plain wrong to tell people they are old enough to do things that require a lot more maturity than drinking at a younger age. I learned to drink responsibly mainly because I was allowed to drink before I turned 18 even by my mother. I had enough influences both positive and negative in my life to show me that alcohol was not something that should be drank to excess but that a little bit was not bad for you either.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I remember that. And I think I read of a similar tragedy in the UK at the Daily Mail. But these stories made news because death from drinking too much water is so exceedingly rare. Deaths in which alcohol was a factor are all too common.
    See, the problem is that every time alcohol is involved at all in the situation, we blame alcohol for the death, even if the facts show that it would have happened even without the alcohol in every likelihood. Alcohol has become a scapegoat for irresponsibility and very bad choices. A person who drinks a beer or a glass of wine or even a mixed drink who is responsible is not likely to lose control of themselves due to that alcohol and kill someone or beat someone because of the alcohol. It is the people that cannot control themselves to begin with that are doing those things when they drink too much alcohol. And it has little to do with age. I've seen plenty of adults who do stupid stuff while drinking.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I never said it didn't happen. This is not what the thread is about. YOU guys are going off topic, and it's annoying. The topic is alcohol and it's effects on young people and whether or not we should lower the drinking AGAIN.

    Not to mention, HOW many people die from water as opposed to alcohol? This argument is completely BOGUS!
    yes, it's about alcohol and the drinking age. I may have helped get it off track, so let's see if I can help get it back:

    The age of adulthood is the issue, and the argument is that, if 18 is the magic age for voting, soldiering, gun ownership, then why not for alcohol as well?

    How is it that a young person can drive at 16, buy cigarettes at 18, but not drink until 21? It is an interesting question, and the answers are not so much logical as they are political.

    The answer? There isn't one, as not everyone matures at the same time. Personally, I'd keep the driving age where it is, but not allow an inexperienced driver to haul other youth around (based on how teens tend to act when with other teens), raise the age for tobacco to 21, along with alcohol, to discourage addiction and give the developing mind a few more years before being confronted by the choice of responsible vs. irresponsible drinking, but keep the age for soldiering at 18, as they are more moldable than are older people.
    As for voting, sometimes I think five year olds could do a better job of it that we adults have, but that's yet another issue.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Look, the thread is not about food or water or anything else. It's about alcohol and it's effects on young people and whether or not we should lower the drinking age. I say no, and I've posted evidence to back my opinion. Your post really doesn't address anything I've posted.
    It really comes down to you thinking you have the right to be somebody else's mother, when you don't. An 18 year old is an adult, legally, and they have a right to do with their bodies as they please and make adult decisions.

    If you want to be intellectually consistent you should want to have the legal adult age moved to 21 because you don't believe 18 year olds are adult enough to make their own decisions.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Plenty of things affect young people negatively. But that is why we teach people to be responsible with those things. You cannot teach them to be responsible by completely restricting such things from them.

    And yes, we should lower the drinking age because it is plain wrong to tell people they are old enough to do things that require a lot more maturity than drinking at a younger age. I learned to drink responsibly mainly because I was allowed to drink before I turned 18 even by my mother. I had enough influences both positive and negative in my life to show me that alcohol was not something that should be drank to excess but that a little bit was not bad for you either.
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