View Poll Results: What should the legal drinking age be?

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  • Bring back Prohibition.

    4 3.28%
  • Older than 21. Raise it even higher!

    3 2.46%
  • Leave it at 21 (in the USA).

    23 18.85%
  • 20

    3 2.46%
  • 19

    7 5.74%
  • 18

    54 44.26%
  • 17

    3 2.46%
  • 16

    4 3.28%
  • Below 16.

    4 3.28%
  • Other (please explain).

    17 13.93%
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I can just imagine the carnage on the roads if we lower the drinking age.
    Honestly, a lot of kids start drinking because it's considered the "adult" thing to do. I think we would make more inroads by encouraging them to learn that alcohol consumption requires responsibility rather than creating a false standard acceptable age. The French have a culture to where kids start to have a glass of wine with their parents at young ages, Europe has a lower drinking age, and overall they have less alcohol related problems. I think the big thing is we create a mystery around the substance and in a perverted way entice kids to over imbibe when they can get their hands on it. If we would take a more open approach to slowly introducing kids to it they would treat it with more responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Honestly, a lot of kids start drinking because it's considered the "adult" thing to do. I think we would make more inroads by encouraging them to learn that alcohol consumption requires responsibility rather than creating a false standard acceptable age. The French have a culture to where kids start to have a glass of wine with their parents at young ages, Europe has a lower drinking age, and overall they have less alcohol related problems. I think the big thing is we create a mystery around the substance and in a perverted way entice kids to over imbibe when they can get their hands on it. If we would take a more open approach to slowly introducing kids to it they would treat it with more responsibility.
    The fact is that kids here in America like to party. In places like Russia where there is really no enforced drinking age, alcoholism is a HUGE problem.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I am not a fan of the "graduated adult" standard. One is either of adult age or they are not, telling someone they can make major life decisions such as getting married, signing contracts with full responsibility, serving in a theater of war(being responsible for thousands or more dollars of military equipment), but then saying they "aren't mature enough" to have a beer, gamble in a casino, own a handgun, etc. is ridiculous.

    All of those things require a mature mind and a weighing of consequence, either one is capable of those decisions in full or they are not.
    Pick either 18 or 21 and be done with it.



    The USA has picked 21 as the age to let people start buying alcohol and that will likely not change anytime soon.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Honestly, a lot of kids start drinking because it's considered the "adult" thing to do. I think we would make more inroads by encouraging them to learn that alcohol consumption requires responsibility rather than creating a false standard acceptable age. The French have a culture to where kids start to have a glass of wine with their parents at young ages, Europe has a lower drinking age, and overall they have less alcohol related problems. I think the big thing is we create a mystery around the substance and in a perverted way entice kids to over imbibe when they can get their hands on it. If we would take a more open approach to slowly introducing kids to it they would treat it with more responsibility.
    Don't forget that alcohol is LITERALLY a poison. When you drink alcohol, you are actually poisoning yourself, hence the "high."


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    A study by Russian, British and French researchers published in The Lancet scrutinized deaths between 1990 and 2001 of residents of three Siberian industrial towns with typical mortality rates and determined that 52% of deaths of people between the ages of 15 and 54 were the result of alcohol abuse.[11] Lead researcher Professor David Zaridze estimated that the increase in alcohol consumption since 1987 has caused an additional three million deaths nationwide.[11]

    In 2007, Gennadi Onishenko, the country's chief public health official, voiced his concern over the nearly threefold rise in alcohol consumption over the past 16 years; one in eight deaths was attributed to alcohol-related diseases, playing a major role in Russia's population decline.[9] Men are particularly hard hit; according to a U.N. National Human Development Report, Russian males born in 2006 had a life expectancy of just over 60 years, 17 fewer than western Europeans, while Russian females could expect to live thirteen years longer than their male counterparts.[12]

    In June 2009, the Public Chamber of Russia reported over 500,000 alcohol-related deaths annually, noting that Russians consume about 18 litres (4.0 imp gal; 4.8 US gal) of spirits a year, more than double the 8 litres (1.8 imp gal; 2.1 US gal) World Health Organization experts consider dangerous.[13]

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Don't forget that alcohol is LITERALLY a poison. When you drink alcohol, you are actually poisoning yourself, hence the "high."
    Everything you ingest and has pharmacological action is literally a poison.

    The dose makes the poison.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Everything you ingest and has pharmacological action is literally a poison.

    The dose makes the poison.
    Come on! Everything you ingest is NOT like alcohol. That is why there are laws.

    I HATE intellectual dishonesty!

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Prohibition. No need for consumable alcohol.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Let's face it. Even though many of you would like to see 18-year-olds as adults, in reality most of them are not adults. In our modernized and technologically advanced culture, kids don't have to grow up as fast and they don't. They are kids for a longer time now than in the past and that is due to technology and advances in medical science for the most part. If anything, we should probably raise the age on everything.

    Also, the newest data about teens shows evidence that their brains are not yet fully developed and are different from the brains of adults. With these new findings, it sounds counterproductive to decrease the drinking age.

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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Come on! Everything you ingest is NOT like alcohol. That is why there are laws.

    I HATE intellectual dishonesty!
    Did I say that?

    I said everything you ingest is a poison. It depends upon dose.

    As for intellectual dishonesty, take that up with Paracelsus. That's where I learned it.
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    Re: Legal drinking age?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Let's face it. Even though many of you would like to see 18-year-olds as adults, in reality most of them are not adults. In our modernized and technologically advanced culture, kids don't have to grow up as fast and they don't. They are kids for a longer time now than in the past and that is due to technology and advances in medical science for the most part. If anything, we should probably raise the age on everything.

    Also, the newest data about teens shows evidence that their brains are not yet fully developed and are different from the brains of adults. With these new findings, it sounds counterproductive to decrease the drinking age.
    This is why the debate continues on raising the driving age. A 16-year old doesn't have the brain of an 18-year old just as an 18-year old doesn't have the brain of a 21-year old. I don't see this happening, but some of the stats are provocative.

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