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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Mandela was both.

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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In the light of Nelson Mandela's death, was Nelson Mandela a freedom fighter or a terrorist? Or "other" (please explain)?
    Mandela fought against the WASP policies that repressed the poor minorities in South Africa. The USA needs someone like him to fight for poor minorities in this Nation. I do not mean ethnic minorities, even though many of the poor would be considered ethnic minorities. We need to follow up the Occupy movement with action, legal or subliminal.

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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Mandela fought against the WASP policies that repressed the poor minorities in South Africa. The USA needs someone like him to fight for poor minorities in this Nation. I do not mean ethnic minorities, even though many of the poor would be considered ethnic minorities. We need to follow up the Occupy movement with action, legal or subliminal.
    I endited your post a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Mandela fought against the WASP policies that repressed the poor majority in South Africa.
    Black Africans were not a minority. They were the majority oppressed by the apartheid government.
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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    He helped stop apartheid in South Africa and fought for the freedom of blacks in the country.

    Now, his actions to reach those means may not have always been the pest and in some cases may have been classified as terrorism. I believe his group was recognized as a terrorist organization for some time.
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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What does that make our founding fathers? Jihadist terrorist or communists?
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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    anybody can claim or be named a freedom fighter, it is up to the people who are affected by the actions of the person to decide. In this case the people of South Africa have rallied around him and he unified a country. In the cases of other "freedom fighters" such as bin Laden, he was able to secure the blessings of few, but 99% of Islam did not feel the same way. That is the difference. While obviously not every South African loves Mandela, it is surely easier to find a Mandela lover than a bin Laden lover in their home territory.
    The difference lies only in interpretation. Were numerical subscription the yardstick, freedom fighters could only warrant such a designation via global acclaim. By extension, Bin Laden couldn't be a terrorist since, as you say, he couldn't boast such widespread approval. To say nothing of so arbitrary a definition as popularity.

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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    South Africa has some problems now and it will likely have problems in the future, but it will never become another Zimbabwe and it can thank Mandela for that.
    That's what many credit Mandela for including Afrikaans.

    But if a civil war would have broken out, Mandela probably would have found himself back in prison. The Soviet Union was no more so the ANC only had Cuba to look for with support and the Afrikaans controlled the most powerful military on the continent of Africa back then.

    South Africa becoming another Zimbabwe ? I'm only going from what I hear South Africans saying, if the ANC moves any further to the left, South Africa will become another Zimbabwe. That hell hole is one real basket case.

    Back in early 2001, before 9-11, the scuttlebutt was in the White House that regime change in Zimbabwe was on Bush's agenda. But 9-11 changed everything.

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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    All terrorists are freedom fighters and all freedom fighters are terrorists -- it's two sides of the same coin, all dependent on your viewpoint.

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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Our founding fathers were men who fought for freedom for themselves, but not for the Black slaves that many of them owned.
    I agree. Im just trying to show him that his logic is very flawed.


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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    All terrorists are freedom fighters and all freedom fighters are terrorists -- it's two sides of the same coin, all dependent on your viewpoint.
    What a truly ignorant statement.

    The difference lies, not in the points of views of people who know absolutely nothing of the world, but in the techniques used.

    Terrorists strike innocent civilians because they are civilians. Freedom fighters can involve themselves in non violent struggle, or choose means which attack military or governmental targets, in which case they are involved in guerilla war, not terrorism.
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