View Poll Results: Was Nelson Mandela a terrorist or a freedom fighter? Or other (please explain)

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Thread: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    What a truly ignorant statement.

    The difference lies, not in the points of views of people who know absolutely nothing of the world, but in the techniques used.

    Terrorists strike innocent civilians because they are civilians. Freedom fighters can involve themselves in non violent struggle, or choose means which attack military or governmental targets, in which case they are involved in guerilla war, not terrorism.
    But sometimes the government kills innocent civilians via flying robots, and sometimes the Taliban terrorist is actually just defending the village where his mom and wife live.

    You're trying to draw a distinction where none exist. Everything is a point of view -- and the most evil, despicable, irredeemable men to you may be heroic martyrs and family men to others, while the institutions we reify and honour can appear to be mindless death machines to others.

    Thus, I think, with very few exceptions, you must agree: In general, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Some of them use more noble and careful methods, and some of them are pragmatic bastards who will do anything to accomplish their goal. But don't insult me, yourself, or them by saying that somehow some of them are objectively evil, while others are not.

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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In the light of Nelson Mandela's death, was Nelson Mandela a freedom fighter or a terrorist? Or "other" (please explain)?
    i dont know, he seemed to be a bit of both. And you know its all about perspective. I mean George Washington, Tomas Jefferson, Paul revere, all of them were technically terrorists but they are considered among Americas greatest hero's.
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    Re: Mandela, Freedom Fighter or Terrorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Durin View Post
    Transkei was a dictatorship ruled by a corrupt one party government, and was essentially a vassal of South Africa the entire time.
    Still not part of South Africa. The corrupt party was run by Mandela's cousin until 1987. Bantu Holomisa ruler after 1987 was in fact another supporter of Mandela. Hell, he was elected to the ANC national executive committee when Transkei became part of South Africa in 1994.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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