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2016 Republican Primary

REPUBLICANS ONLY PLEASE- YOUR TOP CHOICE FOR 2016 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT

  • Ted Cruz

    Votes: 8 10.0%

  • Rand Paul

    Votes: 23 28.8%

  • Marco Rubio

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Mike Huckabee

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Chris Christie

    Votes: 16 20.0%

  • Rick Perry

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Rick Santorum

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jon Huntsman

    Votes: 11 13.8%

  • Paul Ryan

    Votes: 4 5.0%

  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 12 15.0%
  • Total voters
    80
Cephus said:
And crazy things sound crazy to normal people. Those two are out of their minds.
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Hmm, I wonder if these two are any more crazy or if independents consider them as crazy as Hillary Clinton. I have seen nothing on this, but I do have the latest PPP polling results which list independents favorable/unfavorable ratings. Now these are independents and independents only which is important as independents tend to decide national elections.

Hillary Clinton among independents 34% favorable 55% unfavorable 10% not sure
Todd Cruz 29% favorable 38% unfavorable 33% not sure
Rand Paul 40% favorable 33% unfavorable 27% not sure
Christie 46% favorable 28% unfavorable 25% not sure

It seems most independents have made up their mind about how they feel about Clinton, only 10% not sure/undecided. But with the rest there is lots of room to change their ratings one way or the other.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2013/PPP_Release_National_1218.pdf
 
Perotista said:
Hmm, I wonder if these two are any more crazy or if independents consider them as crazy as Hillary Clinton. I have seen nothing on this, but I do have the latest PPP polling results which list independents favorable/unfavorable ratings. Now these are independents and independents only which is important as independents tend to decide national elections.
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I don't buy that they do, to be honest. Independents have supported Ron Paul for a long, long time and he's never even gotten close to winning an election.
 
Cephus said:
I don't buy that they do, to be honest. Independents have supported Ron Paul for a long, long time and he's never even gotten close to winning an election.
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No, not really. Very few independents supported Ron Paul. Back in 2012, Ron Paul supporters were most young college kids or older Libertarians. Paul's support if you go back to all the polls taken between Dec of 2011 to April of 2012 he ranged between 9-15%. Now none of these polls show what independents thought of him since there are so many closed primaries and what independents think during primaries mean little to nothing.

young people support shows up in his favorable ratings. Ron Paul's favorable rating among the young was 46%, 40 to 65 his favorable rating dropped to 34% and over 65 his favorable rating was at 32%. By contrast Romney's was at 52%, 67% and 75% in the 65 and older group.

There is nothing I can find that give me a break down on how independents viewed Ron Paul, but I do not think he had much support from independents. I think most independents really didn't give him much thought as he was perceived as a non-winner. But until I find a poll or something in writing, one can never be sure.
 
Peter King said:
Last measured popularity:

Ted Cruz 23% fav, 42% unfav., 21% never heard of, 15% no opinion (October 2013)
Rand Paul 30% fav, 33% unfav., 37% haven't heard enough, 1% refused (September 2013)
Marco Rubio 26% fav, 25% unfav., 49% no opinion (June 2013)
Mike Huckabee 47% fav, 34% unfav., 18% unsure (May 2011)
Chris Christie 40% fav, 22% unfav., 36% haven't heard enough, 2% refused (September 2013)
Rick Perry 27% fav, 51% unfav., 11% never heard of, 11% unsure (January 2012)
Rick Santorum 35% fav, 42% unfav., 13% never heard of, 9% no opinion (March 2012)
John Huntsman 25% fav, 25% unfav., 31% never heard of, 15% can't say (January 2012)
Paul Ryan 40% fav, 32% unfav., 19% never heard of, 8% no opinion (June 2013)


Hillary Clinton 59% fav, 37% unfav., 0% never heard of, 3% unsure (October 2013)


Sorry, but Hillary Clinton is by far the most popular of these politicians and she has one huge ace up her sleeve to play (hubby Bill Clinton)
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Hillary Clinton is the worst thing that has ever happened to America. I feel like people are just not intelligent or that they really just hate America. She let 4 Americans die in Ben "What difference does it make?" Ghazi.
 
I'm glad to see most primary voters in this poll have some common sense to vote for the only Senators standing up to the corrupt washington elite.

95 voted.

Rand Paul 30%
Ted Cruz 29%
Chris Christie 11%
Jon Hunstman 10%
Paul Ryan 2%
Marco Rubio 1%
Rick Perry 1%
Mike Huckabee 1%
Rick Santorum 1%
Rob Portman 1%
 
Cephus said:
And crazy things sound crazy to normal people. Those two are out of their minds.
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I think you are out of your mind and crazy if you don't support Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

I wouldn't use the term "normal people" since to me, people who think of themselves as "normal people" are:

-Boring
-Unimaginative
-Average intelligence
-Close-minded
-Don't accomplish much
-Flock to the in-crowds
-Judgmental to interesting people and labels them 'weird'
 
Countering the continued noise over Clinton's FOUR dead, do you hear constant blather about Reagan's Beirut problem?
No you don't.

Or the over 4,400 problem from Cheney/Bush?
Only when the Benghazi BS of the crook I$$A comes up.

How about donating to the over 31,000 families of wounded warriors?
 
NIMBY said:
Countering the continued noise over Clinton's FOUR dead, do you hear constant blather about Reagan's Beirut problem?
No you don't.

Or the over 4,400 problem from Cheney/Bush?
Only when the Benghazi BS of the crook I$$A comes up.

How about donating to the over 31,000 families of wounded warriors?
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Your concerns about those previous administrations are legit. I don't care about what party they were. If they are wrong, then they are wrong.

However, none of them are considered top contenders for the 2016 nomination for President.

American voters need to learn to vote smarter.
 
We wouldn't be where we are now if O'Connor hadn't made the wrong decision, her words .
Tothian said:
Your concerns about those previous administrations are legit. I don't care about what party they were. If they are wrong, then they are wrong.

However, none of them are considered top contenders for the 2016 nomination for President.

American voters need to learn to vote smarter.
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Tothian said:
I think you are out of your mind and crazy if you don't support Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.
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No, you're out of your mind and crazy if you support any of the religious looney tunes.

Let's try for people who know something about reality for once.
 
Tothian said:
Hillary Clinton is the worst thing that has ever happened to America. I feel like people are just not intelligent or that they really just hate America. She let 4 Americans die in Ben "What difference does it make?" Ghazi.
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I think Hillary Clinton is a good politician and could be a good president. With any luck she will become president because except Chris Christie the republican party does not have a candidate that can even get close to her in electability and quality.

And she did not let 4 Americans die in Benghazi. If we are starting up with that kind of reasoning we have to look at all the injured or dead troops because of lack of sufficient materials during the Iraq war. In conflict situations sometimes people die. I may dislike the handing of the Iraq war but I am not going to state that Bush "let soldiers die" because in wars people die.
 
Tothian said:
I think you are out of your mind and crazy if you don't support Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

I wouldn't use the term "normal people" since to me, people who think of themselves as "normal people" are:

-Boring
-Unimaginative
-Average intelligence
-Close-minded
-Don't accomplish much
-Flock to the in-crowds
-Judgmental to interesting people and labels them 'weird'
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I actually agree with Rand Paul on a few things ... he's made harsh yet correct criticisms of the NSA surveillance and the drone program. On those issues, I agree with him. Outside of that, not so much.

Ted Cruz is a jackass.
 
The Prophet said:
Slick Willy can be as huge hindrance as well as a help. He's getting of age where he will say just about anything without thinking through the consequences first.
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I think I'll wait until I see some evidence of senility from President Clinton before I start claiming he's a potential liability. Democrats (and, actually, a lot of Republicans) like the guy. I think the work he and Bush 41 did for tsunami relief helped a lot of hardcore Republicans get over their Clinton hate.

Anecdotally speaking, of course, a close friend of mine from high school who was a rabid conservative (he's softened a bit, but he still wouldn't vote for a Democrat if you threatened to shoot him) utterly HATED Clinton. Now, he likes him. Just sayin' is all.
 
Cephus said:
No, you're out of your mind and crazy if you support any of the religious looney tunes.

Let's try for people who know something about reality for once.
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I'm a northern Republican who could never support either of them. Unless Elizabeth Warren was somehow the nominee. Then I'd have to at least consider it.

Edit: Definitely not Cruz, but I'd at least give Paul a listen to see if he changes his campaign tune. I'm convinced he's an opportunist not an ideologue and an opportunist however distasteful can still be a decent President, sometimes moreso. I think Cruz is simply not competent to be President.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Let's all stop suggesting other posters are out of their mind and crazy
 
Chris Christie, because I would like to be okay with whoever wins.
 
Cephus said:
No, you're out of your mind and crazy if you support any of the religious looney tunes.

Let's try for people who know something about reality for once.
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I think you're out of your mind for saying such a foolish comment. "Religious looney tune"? Seriously dude? They are Christians and are sane, but in times of great deception like these times, common sense will be dismissed as craziness. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You're just plain wrong.
 
Sherman123 said:
I'm a northern Republican who could never support either of them. Unless Elizabeth Warren was somehow the nominee. Then I'd have to at least consider it.

Edit: Definitely not Cruz, but I'd at least give Paul a listen to see if he changes his campaign tune. I'm convinced he's an opportunist not an ideologue and an opportunist however distasteful can still be a decent President, sometimes moreso. I think Cruz is simply not competent to be President.
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I think both Cruz and Paul are good.
 
Tothian said:
I think you're out of your mind for saying such a foolish comment. "Religious looney tune"? Seriously dude? They are Christians and are sane, but in times of great deception like these times, common sense will be dismissed as craziness. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You're just plain wrong.
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Ron Paul is a creationist, that's insanity. I'm assuming that Rand is the same, although if I'm wrong, I apologize, I haven't seen him say otherwise. Ted Cruz's father is a fundamentalist minister who has spoken out for utter religious insanity. I assume, again if I'm wrong, I apologizes, that Ted holds similar views. No matter what "common sense" views you think they might otherwise hold, when it comes to religion, both are, so far as we know, out of their minds.
 
Tothian said:
I think both Cruz and Paul are good.
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To a great many of us Cruz would push us to not vote or vote for a Democrat if we thought he might win. Selecting Cruz instantly removes so many suburban Republican and Independent communities from play. I think Cruz is extreme, I think he is irresponsible, and I think he is not competent for the Presidency.
 
Rand Paul. The Republicans really need to change sails for good.
 
Sherman123 said:
To a great many of us Cruz would push us to not vote or vote for a Democrat if we thought he might win. Selecting Cruz instantly removes so many suburban Republican and Independent communities from play. I think Cruz is extreme, I think he is irresponsible, and I think he is not competent for the Presidency.
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It's a sad day where people in America seem to hate the best choice for President (Ted Cruz) but glorify the worst choice for President (Hillary Clinton).

It's alright. You will all see the truth.
 
Sherman123 said:
To a great many of us Cruz would push us to not vote or vote for a Democrat if we thought he might win. Selecting Cruz instantly removes so many suburban Republican and Independent communities from play. I think Cruz is extreme, I think he is irresponsible, and I think he is not competent for the Presidency.
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Ted Cruz is like the most responsible person for the Presidency. He stands up to the corrupt Washington elite that people are so tired of. And he defends freedom.

If you don't want to vote or if you want to make a really destructive vote - that's your choice. But if you love America, you will vote for Ted Cruz. But if not, he would still win anyway with or without your vote. But with it you would be making the best choice.
 
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