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2016 Republican Primary

REPUBLICANS ONLY PLEASE- YOUR TOP CHOICE FOR 2016 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT

  • Ted Cruz

    Votes: 8 10.0%

  • Rand Paul

    Votes: 23 28.8%

  • Marco Rubio

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Mike Huckabee

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Chris Christie

    Votes: 16 20.0%

  • Rick Perry

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Rick Santorum

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jon Huntsman

    Votes: 11 13.8%

  • Paul Ryan

    Votes: 4 5.0%

  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 12 15.0%
  • Total voters
    80
Tothian said:
I would not be happy with Rubio on the ticket. He voted to reauthorize the NDAA.
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You mean the authorization to move detainees at Guantanamo Bay to other countries, not including the USA? There's a lot of things in the NDAA, some of which I do not understand
 
Steve Ja said:
You mean the authorization to move detainees at Guantanamo Bay to other countries, not including the USA? There's a lot of things in the NDAA, some of which I do not understand
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You are right, but a lot of it votes to violate the United States Constitution in a lot of ways.
 
The GOP Senate has consistently prevented Obama from closing GITMO as they always do..Filibuster the Defense bill..All that's left is for the GOP to continue it's rewrite history crusade .
 
NIMBY said:
The GOP Senate has consistently prevented Obama from closing GITMO as they always do..Filibuster the Defense bill..All that's left is for the GOP to continue it's rewrite history crusade .
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Obama is the one trying to unwrite the United States Constitution.
 
Tothian said:
You are right, but a lot of it votes to violate the United States Constitution in a lot of ways.
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Do you have any examples. I'm trying to read it, of course its the ACLU page and I am highly skeptical of anything the ACLU says.
 
Tothian said:
Obama is the one trying to unwrite the United States Constitution.
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Focus on the post you quoted--Senate GOP Hawks prevent the POTUS from closing GITMO by threatening the Defense bill..Which parts of the Constitution have the President tried to rewrite, especially compared to all Presidents back to and through Reagan ?
 
Steve Ja said:
Do you have any examples. I'm trying to read it, of course its the ACLU page and I am highly skeptical of anything the ACLU says.
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Also his lack of respect for the 1st Amendment by court martialing anyone in the military who will try to preach Christianity to others. There isn't any rule about Islam though.

Obama's lack of regard for the 2nd Amendment by trying to weaken and disarm Americans.

Obama's lack of regard for the 4th Amendment by allowing the NSA to spy on Americans.

NDAA, Department of Justice targeting media, IRS targeting opposing political groups like the Tea Party.

The list goes on.
 
Steve Ja said:
Do you have any examples. I'm trying to read it, of course its the ACLU page and I am highly skeptical of anything the ACLU says.
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Such as when the ACLU defends arch-right-wing-ists evangelicals who want to burn the the KURAN .
 
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Tothian said:
NDAA, Department of Justice targeting media, IRS targeting opposing political groups like the Tea Party.
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any indictments yet ?
Or just a lot of faux noise ?

The list goes on.
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please do--with your fact-free assertions .
 
Tothian said:
They can burn the Qu'ran for all I care. At least it would keep people from being deceived by it's lies.
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Now you know what a strawman is--your post--try to focus on the example i gave to another poster about the ACLU--not blasting off on the example--that blast-off is far more concerning to a real Libertarian concerned over NSA--NSA which spies on American citizens who are terrorists ,
 
NIMBY said:
Such as when the ACLU defends arch-right-wing-ists evangelicals who want to burn the the KURAN .
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When did the ACLU defend this? And it is not illegal in this country to burn the Koran or Qur'an that I know of, even if I do not agree with it as it offends Muslims, just as I don't agree with burning the American flag, as it should offend every American but again is it illegal? If these are illegal I'd like to know where it says so. If they are not it is a freedom they have as distasteful, disrespectful and highly unimaginable the acts are.
 
NIMBY said:
Now you know what a strawman is--your post--try to focus on the example i gave to another poster about the ACLU--not blasting off on the example--that blast-off is far more concerning to a real Libertarian concerned over NSA--NSA which spies on American citizens who are terrorists ,
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What do you mean?
 
NIMBY said:
Now you know what a strawman is--your post--try to focus on the example i gave to another poster about the ACLU--not blasting off on the example--that blast-off is far more concerning to a real Libertarian concerned over NSA--NSA which spies on American citizens who are terrorists ,
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spying on terrorists, should be OK. National security should never be taken for granted
 
NIMBY said:
Now you know what a strawman is--your post--try to focus on the example i gave to another poster about the ACLU--not blasting off on the example--that blast-off is far more concerning to a real Libertarian concerned over NSA--NSA which spies on American citizens who are terrorists ,
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Tothian said:
What do you mean?
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wondering that myself
 
I would love for Rand Paul to be President. Some top contenders I wouldn't mind are Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Ben Carson, with Allen West as Secretary of Defense. However, someone such as West who voted to lock up US citizens indefinitely, I would never put in a position of too much authority.

I think the GOP will be making the biggest mistake of their life if they nominate a RINO like Christie, Bush or even Rubio. Sure a Christie will galvanize and lure a portion of moderates, but also he would turn away a key segment of the Republican voting block- real conservatives and libertarians, who are sick and tired of voting against someone, and now are searching 3rd party tickets.

I think the key will be to portray 2 distinctly different agendas to the American ppl. Clinton and socialism will be on 1 side of the ticket, and you don't want Christie and less socialism on the other side. Cruz or Paul would represent the biggest difference in ideals.
 
Paul and Cruz both with double the votes of Christie? Let's hope the remainder of the GOP electorate is wiser than their DP counterparts.
 
The Prophet said:
I would love for Rand Paul to be President. Some top contenders I wouldn't mind are Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Ben Carson, with Allen West as Secretary of Defense. However, someone such as West who voted to lock up US citizens indefinitely, I would never put in a position of too much authority.

I think the GOP will be making the biggest mistake of their life if they nominate a RINO like Christie, Bush or even Rubio. Sure a Christie will galvanize and lure a portion of moderates, but also he would turn away a key segment of the Republican voting block- real conservatives and libertarians, who are sick and tired of voting against someone, and now are searching 3rd party tickets.

I think the key will be to portray 2 distinctly different agendas to the American ppl. Clinton and socialism will be on 1 side of the ticket, and you don't want Christie and less socialism on the other side. Cruz or Paul would represent the biggest difference in ideals.
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Well said. And I didn't know that Allen West supported the Patriot Act.
 
a351 said:
Paul and Cruz both with double the votes of Christie? Let's hope the remainder of the GOP electorate is wiser than their DP counterparts.
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What's wrong with you? Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are 2 of the best Senators in the Senate.

Chris Christie is just a moderate.
 
79 voted.

Rand Paul 30%
Ted Cruz 26%
Chris Christie 12%
Jon Huntsman 11%
Paul Ryan 2%
Rick Perry 1%
Rick Santorum 1%
Mike Huckabee 1%
Rob Portman 1%
 
84 voted.

Rand Paul 30%
Ted Cruz 27%
Chris Christie 11%
Jon Huntsman 11%
Paul Ryan 2%
Rick Perry 1%
Rick Santorum 1%
Mike Huckabee 1%
Rob Portman 1%[/QUOTE]
 
87 voted.

Rand Paul 29%
Ted Cruz 27%
Chris Christie 12%
Jon Huntsman 11%
Paul Ryan 2%
Rick Perry 1%
Rick Santorum 1%
Mike Huckabee 1%
Marco Rubio 1%
Rob Portman 1%
 
Ted Cruz is coming close to surpassing frontrunner Rand Paul in this poll. It's what the media would call a dead heat, or a statistical tie.

At this stage in the campaign, you would see everyone else drop out, and it would just be 4. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Chris Christie, and Jon Huntsman. But really you would have two tea party Senators, and two moderate Governors.

The Tea Party Senators 56%
The moderate Governors 23%

6 single digit candidates 7%

If these were the numbers, you would see Jon Hunstman drop out and endorse Christie, giving Christie a good chunk of the 11% of support that Hunstman had, while another portion would possibly go to Rick Perry or Mike Huckabee (to the voters who have a preference for nominating Governors)

So then the numbers would be

Rand Paul 29%
Ted Cruz 27%
Chris Christie 19%

And in actuality, while I can see both Paul and Cruz both running for President, I can't see it in the same election. So it would make one of them the frontrunner.
 
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