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2016 Republican Primary

REPUBLICANS ONLY PLEASE- YOUR TOP CHOICE FOR 2016 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT

  • Ted Cruz

    Votes: 8 10.0%

  • Rand Paul

    Votes: 23 28.8%

  • Marco Rubio

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Mike Huckabee

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Chris Christie

    Votes: 16 20.0%

  • Rick Perry

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Rick Santorum

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jon Huntsman

    Votes: 11 13.8%

  • Paul Ryan

    Votes: 4 5.0%

  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 12 15.0%
  • Total voters
    80
Psychoclown said:
Funny how I seem to recall there being a wing of the party that actually believed in small government and reduced spending. If someone "moderately" supported those things, i.e. wanted to make cuts and reduce the scope of government but not as drastically as I might like, I could still support them. At least things would move in the right direction.

But I can't support "moderates" who backed runaway spending and big government - bailouts, TARP, NCLB, the unfunded entitlement expansion known as Medicare part D, Romneycare, budgetary smoke and mirrors that they falsely call cuts, or neutering squester cuts like this last deal did. That's what moderates have become in the GOP. People who say they want smaller government and fiscal responsibility, but really they just want to expand the size of government at a slightly slower rate than the Democrats and they just want to shift around where the dollars go in our bloated budget.

For all the hate Republicans give Obama, I can't imagine either of the two guys they ran against Obama being anything more than perhaps marginally different than Obama on a vast majority of issues.
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Some strategist out there have them convinced we need to run an "Obama lite" to win, they may pick up some independent votes but I think more and more we are seeing the Republican base either sitting out, or voting but with very little enthusiasm.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
And neither of them are liberals. Huntsman had a more fiscally conservative record as governor of Utah than any other candidate in 2012. Yet he was called a liberal because he was moderate in tone. Not in his ideas or in his governing record, but rather just in his tone. The only reason why he had any support from moderate Democrats was that he was obviously a very smart guy and they go for that kind of thing in elections.
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Quoted for truth. I never understood the reaction that Huntsman was a liberal or a RINO. He's not a bomb throwing, fiery rhetoric guy, but what he ran on and his own record was much more fiscally conservative than Romney, Santorum, or a lot of the other dregs the GOP trotted out last time.
 
NIMBY said:
Please choose one of your headless horseman !
I won't bother explaining to you why the Green Papers predict that Christie will easily win the nomination..
CC even bought off Cuomo today on "bridge-gate"..
You haven't heard of bridge-gate on FOX have you ?
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what does this have to do what I said.

I have had to deal with liberals trying to choose the republican party candidate for years, when I used to be a republican party conservative.

liberals have for years worked to steer conservatives on to liberal to moderate candidates to negate republicans winning the WH.

this time around its Huntsman, Christie, ...who liberals are going look to minimize damage... because of Obama polices and Obamacare.
 
Psychoclown said:
Funny how I seem to recall there being a wing of the party that actually believed in small government and reduced spending. If someone "moderately" supported those things, i.e. wanted to make cuts and reduce the scope of government but not as drastically as I might like, I could still support them. At least things would move in the right direction..
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We got the "spending-deal--lite" for one reason..
The GOP needed to get back to bashing ACA and plotting on the "debt-ceiling", as in Paul Ryan's words..
I see Paul Ryan has zero votes so far..
Call me a Lincoln RINO who is against Grand Obstruction .
 
Did liberals pick Reagan ernst?
Didn't the liberal Anderson run 3rd party in 1980 ?
ernst barkmann said:
what does this have to do what I said.

I have had to deal with liberals trying to choose the republican party candidate for years, when I used to be a republican party conservative.

liberals have for years worked to steer conservatives on to liberal to moderate candidates to negate republicans winning the WH.

this time around its Huntsman, Christie, ...who liberals are going look to minimize damage... because of Obama polices and Obamacare.
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SouthernDemocrat said:
And neither of them are liberals. Huntsman had a more fiscally conservative record as governor of Utah than any other candidate in 2012. Yet he was called a liberal because he was moderate in tone. Not in his ideas or in his governing record, but rather just in his tone. The only reason why he had any support from moderate Democrats was that he was obviously a very smart guy and they go for that kind of thing in elections.
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if America has another dole or romney moment ..it will be because of the liberals and moderates who influence the republican party.
 
The Green papers are easy enough to Google..
They describe the primaries/caucuses for both parties..
It should be interesting to see how//if the States change their current primaries as per the GOP..
Right now, CC is favored hands-down .
ernst barkmann said:
if America has another dole or romney moment ..it will be because of the liberals and moderates who influence the republican party.
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alexpinca said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to crash your "party". But don't be concerned, I voted for the guy that most of you voted for. I would prefer for our candidate to face Cruz more than any other candidate. Forgive me, but I consider him to be the weakest candidate at the national level and would love to see Clinton clean up on him. I've always said...I love the RINO hating conservatives.
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Really? I think Santorum is the weakest candidate hands down.
 
Imo, whoever it is - except Paul - will be worse then useless (Paul will be just useless).

Same with the Dem. candidates, btw.

When will America learn?
 
Man, that's one hell of a motley crew.
 
NIMBY said:
The same as now..Buchanon would have been slaughtered in the election..
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Not if every state adopted Florida's type of ballots.

With so many stupid people in America today, I can see someone voting for Gore and they actually are voting for Buchanan.

I still every once in awhile will look at that ballot and still can't believe we allow stupid people to vote.
 
sbrettt said:
Really? I think Santorum is the weakest candidate hands down.
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Maybe. I think Santorum is much better spoken than Perry and as loathsome as his views are he is a remarkably intelligent individual. I think he's always more competitive than people give him credit for.
 
Sherman123 said:
Maybe. I think Santorum is much better spoken than Perry and as loathsome as his views are he is a remarkably intelligent individual. I think he's always more competitive than people give him credit for.
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That's a good point. I can't find it, but I swear I saw a video where he has a meltdown in an interview.
 
Tothian said:
Christie isn't all that he is cracked up to be. On the national stage, he would crumble like Romney did in 2012. There's a lot of skeletons in Christie's closet, which is why Romney didn't pick Christie to be his running mate. It would all come out in a national campaign. Sometimes the media doesn't report these things on "prospective" candidates on purpose. They like to build up potential candidates - so that the reporter who takes them down AFTER they announce, get more fame, prominence, success, and power.

Even though Ted Cruz is my most favorite, I think Mike Huckabee is the most electable potential 2016 Republican candidate. He was Governor for almost 10 years. And he has been in the top 3 - close to being runner up in 2008 GOP Primary, right behind McCain and Romney. Running for President (or Vice President) before usually seems to help a lot of GOP candidates, as they are usually better tested on the national stage - and are also viewed differently than a lot of the first time candidates - the one who ran before and came close to winning usually has a sense of prominence and experience about them that Republican voters seem to like.
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I think it might be a conservative dream to run an actual conservative but despite the uncertain future of Obamacare, the population has undergone a sea change from which there is no return. A steady hand on the rudder, yes. A return to even the early Bush era, no. So all that's left for conservatives to offer is fiscal discipline. That will be the pitch. But of course, it's just what they say, not what they do.

Christie is a liberal, of sorts, and one of the few that can't be quickly demonized. People are tired of Democrats, sure, but they like those checks and they will vote their pocketbooks. Christie looks like a democrat. For all I know, he may be one in secret like a Marrano Jew. But he'll look delicious to the annoyed democrats and might actually win.

(I do not for one instant profess that I know whereof I speak. This is just how it seems to me. I could be incredibly wrong)
 
I'll assume you didn't get your Christmas card from Barack and family this year..
It opens to a neat cardboard cut-out of the White House, with a flag on top and two black dogs in front .
APACHERAT said:
Not if every state adopted Florida's type of ballots.

With so many stupid people in America today, I can see someone voting for Gore and they actually are voting for Buchanan.

I still every once in awhile will look at that ballot and still can't believe we allow stupid people to vote.
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NIMBY said:
I'll assume you didn't get your Christmas card from Barack and family this year..
It opens to a neat cardboard cut-out of the White House, with a flag on top and two black dogs in front .
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No. :2mad:

But I did get one from Pat and his family.
 
APACHERAT said:
Not if every state adopted Florida's type of ballots.

With so many stupid people in America today, I can see someone voting for Gore and they actually are voting for Buchanan.

I still every once in awhile will look at that ballot and still can't believe we allow stupid people to vote.
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Right, because the votes all went in Gore's column, and not the other way.
 
Kobie said:
Right, because the votes all went in Gore's column, and not the other way.
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Here's the ballot that stupid Democrats got their panties all wadded up over.

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APACHERAT said:
Not if every state adopted Florida's type of ballots.

With so many stupid people in America today, I can see someone voting for Gore and they actually are voting for Buchanan.

I still every once in awhile will look at that ballot and still can't believe we allow stupid people to vote.
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If stupid people were prevented from voting, the Republican party would quickly disappear into oblivion.
 
APACHERAT said:
If someone wasn't paying attention when they entered the polling booth, you see how one could have voted for the better candidate without knowing it. :lol:
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You could also see what could happen if the old folks couldn't see who they were voting for.

Even YOU have to admit, that's a pretty bad ballot.
 
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