View Poll Results: REPUBLICANS ONLY PLEASE- YOUR TOP CHOICE FOR 2016 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT

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    51 30.36%
  • Rand Paul

    50 29.76%
  • Marco Rubio

    2 1.19%
  • Mike Huckabee

    2 1.19%
  • Chris Christie

    18 10.71%
  • Rick Perry

    2 1.19%
  • Rick Santorum

    12 7.14%
  • Jon Huntsman

    12 7.14%
  • Paul Ryan

    4 2.38%
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    15 8.93%
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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    actually no, the house has passed a lot of legislation, and i mean a lot...but its has not gone anywhere becuase harry reid, will not bring it to the floor of the senate.
    With legislative riders and refusing to go to joint conference--next
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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    With legislative riders and refusing to go to joint conference--next
    sorry......but you stated the house was a party of "no" in the past, and has not passed legislation.

    i stated to you they have passed a lot, which you acknowledged by stating...." riders and refusing to go to joint conference".

    so they have passed a lot of bills, ....but according to your mind.... harry shares no faults with them not reaching the senate floor.

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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And though state exchanges were GOP ideas, the GOP refuses to open these exchanges they control
    This is called moving the goal posts...it's a wonderful fallacy of someone with an inability to backup their argument.

    You claimed that the GOP "Wrote" ACA back during Reagan's presidency. Even if we are giving you the benefit of the doubt that you mean figuratively rather than literally (since we know literally ACA was just recently written), it's still RIDICULOUS inaccurate as the there are a multitude of differences between what was put out by the Heritage Foundation and the PPACA.

    Randomly throwing out a SINGULAR seperate instance of something and bitching about it doesn't change the amazingly dishonest and factually incorrect claim you previously made. All it does is demonstrate your refusal to acknowledge your mistake (shedding more light onto the notion that you intentionally lied about it rather than simply spoke from a state of ignorance on the topic) and highlights your need to deflect.

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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This is called moving the goal posts...it's a wonderful fallacy of someone with an inability to backup their argument.

    You claimed that the GOP "Wrote" ACA back during Reagan's presidency. Even if we are giving you the benefit of the doubt that you mean figuratively rather than literally (since we know literally ACA was just recently written), it's still RIDICULOUS inaccurate as the there are a multitude of differences between what was put out by the Heritage Foundation and the PPACA.

    Randomly throwing out a SINGULAR seperate instance of something and bitching about it doesn't change the amazingly dishonest and factually incorrect claim you previously made. All it does is demonstrate your refusal to acknowledge your mistake (shedding more light onto the notion that you intentionally lied about it rather than simply spoke from a state of ignorance on the topic) and highlights your need to deflect.
    Going on a rant to defend the indefensible is par for the course for you and the GOP which lies around every corner in their sabotage of ACA..Try Kentucky and get back to me..Thank your lucky stars this Christmas you don't need the Medicaid extension that 25 GOP governors are denying millions of citizens..Obviously you don't believe in preventative care for the uninsured--just go to the emergency room and raise both of our insurance rates..Try danarhea's story of a close friend who died due to lack of insurance, which PPACA would have given..Now go back to slinging insults and showing that you're for the GOP of hate and NO .
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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This is called moving the goal posts...
    something I must have learned from Cons on DP..
    it's a wonderful fallacy of someone with an inability to backup their argument.
    When you bring nothing to the table as a bill yourself, trash others..

    You claimed that the GOP "Wrote" ACA back during Reagan's presidency.
    Not exactly, as you mention later in your diatribe..
    Even if we are giving you the benefit of the doubt that you mean figuratively rather than literally (since we know literally ACA was just recently written), it's still RIDICULOUS inaccurate as the there are a multitude of differences between what was put out by the Heritage Foundation and the PPACA.
    Thank you for capitalizing your random, ridiculous, and singular words..
    Randomly throwing out a SINGULAR seperate instance of something and bitching about it doesn't change the amazingly dishonest and factually incorrect claim you previously made.
    Imagine how well ACA would be doing with a LOYAL opposition..The GOPee and their supporters have ended all hope of collegiality and doomed the USA to "an enemy within" scenario..
    All it does is demonstrate your refusal to acknowledge your mistake
    The mistake again please..Go with the individual quotes, it helps..
    (shedding more light onto the notion that you intentionally lied about it rather than simply spoke from a state of ignorance on the topic) and highlights your need to deflect.
    You can also take it where the sun doesn't shine around Debate Politics, a very sick basement indeed .
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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry......but you stated the house was a party of "no" in the past, and has not passed legislation.

    i stated to you they have passed a lot, which you acknowledged by stating...." riders and refusing to go to joint conference".

    so they have passed a lot of bills, ....but according to your mind.... harry shares no faults with them not reaching the senate floor.
    The House, by your admission, has passed nothing that even the Senate GOP could go along with,
    you know, the GOP that filibusters its own bills and amendments..
    If you pass something a jobs bill while also trying to change federal abortion laws,
    and then refuse to go to a bi-cameral conference,
    this is called Grand Obstruction .
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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The House, by your admission, has passed nothing that even the Senate GOP could go along with,
    you know, the GOP that filibusters its own bills and amendments..
    If you pass something a jobs bill while also trying to change federal abortion laws,
    and then refuse to go to a bi-cameral conference,
    this is called Grand Obstruction .
    thats wrong, the GOP in the senate has no power at all to bring bills to the floor.

    so by your admittance, you are stating the GOP in the house has passed bills, while you stated they were a party of "no", and did nothing.

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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    thats wrong, the GOP in the senate has no power at all to bring bills to the floor.
    Try again--with the fact that the Senate bogs down unless the GOP can put forth endless amendments..

    so by your admittance, you are stating the GOP in the house has passed bills.
    The GOP House of NO has passed bills on a bridge to nowhere, by their own admittance..
    Don't blame me, ask Boehner why he wants a net negative number of bills passed .
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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Try again--with the fact that the Senate bogs down unless the GOP can put forth endless amendments..



    The GOP House of NO has passed bills on a bridge to nowhere, by their own admittance..
    Don't blame me, ask Boehner why he wants a net negative number of bills passed .
    try again nothing, the GOP has no power to bring bills to the floor, in the senate ...harry reid is in charge of that.

    bridge to no where......,what does this have to do, with a party of "no", and no legislation passed.....when its clear legislation has passed the house many times.

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    Re: 2016 Republican Primary

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    try again nothing, the GOP has no power to bring bills to the floor, in the senate ...harry reid is in charge of that.
    wrong again troll--you're unaware of the amendment process--the same process that the GOP
    insisted upon with state exchanges in PPACA..
    and then voted NO of course..

    what does this have to do, with a party of "no", and no legislation passed.....when its clear legislation has passed the house many times.
    Nothing "clear" about any legislation from the House of Horror, as you admit..
    You believe poison pills from the House are legislation--good day .
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