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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Sure they do. That's why we have court martials.

    A good solution to this would be to put every order up to a vote, right? And only obey those that get a majority of yes votes!

    That way when you right wingers get an order from a superior, and you don't like the President of the United States, you could just disobey it! Its a great strategy - one that I'd encourage all right wing loons to follow.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos believed the lies about our troops. That's why they called them baby-killers.

    That's why when a Libbo posts historical information--short of water being wet and the sky is blue--you better check it, because there's a damn good chance the left out some very important parts.
    What would you recommend doing with all the 'Libbos' currently in the military? If you could only get rid of them, you could execute a right wing coup without any problems at all. Talk about Heaven on Earth for you guys!
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Sure they do. That's why we have court martials.

    A good solution to this would be to put every order up to a vote, right? And only obey those that get a majority of yes votes!

    That way when you right wingers get an order from a superior, and you don't like the President of the United States, you could just disobey it! Its a great strategy - one that I'd encourage all right wing loons to follow.
    So, you're totally clueless as to how things work in the service? Thanks for being honest.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What would you recommend doing with all the 'Libbos' currently in the military? If you could only get rid of them, you could execute a right wing coup without any problems at all. Talk about Heaven on Earth for you guys!
    There aren't but a handful of Libbos in the service.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    What I don't get about this post is, again (and seemingly forever on this board) is the ostensible religiosity involved: soldiers are just mindless automatons who would do horrific things if not for the Constitution to guide them? I don't get why some people confuse the Constitution with some holy book. Seriously, just replace the Constitution with the Bible in your post and the tenor remains basically the same.

    Good things can come from ideas and concepts outside of the Constitution. And just because something is in the Constitution doesn't mean it's good. Stop worshiping this thing, it's getting kinda weird.
    Whether you like it or not, the Constitution is the highest law of the land in this nation.

    Every public servant takes an oath to uphold the Constitution, and to defend it against all enemies, foreign or domestic. Every public servant agrees to this as a fundamental condition of taking that job.

    Any public servant who, in the course of his office, has any willful part in violating the Constitution; who has any part in carrying otu any policy, or in enacting, upholding or enforcing any law that is unconstitutional, is not doing the job that he agreed to perform, and is guilty, at the very least, of malfeasance.

    Inasmuch as there may be anything in the Constitution that is deemed to be undesirable, or anything that is not in the Constitution that is deemed to be necessary for inclusion therein, the Constitution established and defines a process by which it may be amended in order to make such changes. This is the only legitimate path to the pursuit of any policy that is not consistent with the Constitution as it stands.

    It is never OK for any public servant to violate the Constitution just because he disagrees with it, nor because he is too lazy, ignorant, or cowardly to defy an unconstitutional order. If he thinks that the Constitution is wrong on any point, then let him attempt to pursue the legitimate Amendment process to correct it.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Soldiers have the right to decide what is a lawful order and what isn't. Welcome to the real world.
    Not only a right, but an obligation.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the military is obligated to overthrow the govt if the govt is violating the constitution or if the govt is making its own personal interpretation of the constitution.
    What? No its not. The SCOTUS, part of the government, interprets the Constitution you know.

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    ...does that mean they would be legitimately justified in staging a coup and overthrowing the government?
    Any soldier who would even consider doing such a thing deserves to be immediately court-marshaled and dishonorably discharged.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Any soldier who would even consider doing such a thing deserves to be immediately court-marshaled and dishonorably discharged.
    So you can't see a scenario where that would be necessary?

    If, for instance, a president decides to stay in power after his term and use the military against the populace to protect him, you think all of the soldiers should just kill their own citizens and follow orders? This scenario has happened in a countless number of countries. For some reason you think soldiers should be mindless automotons who obey orders over the constitution.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    ...does that mean they would be legitimately justified in staging a coup and overthrowing the government?



    There's no if to it, when you join the U. S. military you take an oath to uphold and defend the constitution of the USA..

    There isn't going to be a coup and the U.S. government is not going to be overthrown.

    Wait and see.




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