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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You really think I can't recall that was in the oath? Let me get this straight: You think that soldiers who have sworn to both uphold the constitution and obey the orders of those appointed above them, should always choose orders over the constitution if those two come in conflict? Really? To you soldiers are just mindless automotons who should follow every order no matter how horrific, and should never question the constitutionality of their actions?

    Are you one of those people with no beliefs or back-bone? Or do you just expect all of our soldiers to be?
    What I don't get about this post is, again (and seemingly forever on this board) is the ostensible religiosity involved: soldiers are just mindless automatons who would do horrific things if not for the Constitution to guide them? I don't get why some people confuse the Constitution with some holy book. Seriously, just replace the Constitution with the Bible in your post and the tenor remains basically the same.

    Good things can come from ideas and concepts outside of the Constitution. And just because something is in the Constitution doesn't mean it's good. Stop worshiping this thing, it's getting kinda weird.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Ignorance. They're more educated than the average person.
    Ah yes. The Military. "200 years of tradition uninterrupted by progress."

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Ah yes. The Military. "200 years of tradition uninterrupted by progress."
    That's one of the most stupid quotes I've ever seen. Gratz!

    The military has seen not only technological progress, and has driven advances enjoyed by civil society, it has changed socially and stands in advance of many countries today.

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Ah yes. The Military. "200 years of tradition uninterrupted by progress."
    its nice to be back at the "normal" state where most liberals are comfortable expressing their hatred towards the military. Sucks when you have to pretend to support them.

    The military as an entity has been very 'progressive'. It's populated by a majority of citizens willing to serve and in many cases put themselves in the line of fire for civilians. Do we have some turds? Sure...the military isn't immune to the dregs of society.

    Let me guess...you think colleges are the bastion of culture and progress in modern society...right?

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Constitution doesn't allow the president to change, or refuse to enforce the law.
    It most certainly allows the president to refuse to enforce the law its unconstitutional. The oath of office is quite clear on that, which is in the constitution.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    What I don't get about this post is, again (and seemingly forever on this board) is the ostensible religiosity involved: soldiers are just mindless automatons who would do horrific things if not for the Constitution to guide them? I don't get why some people confuse the Constitution with some holy book. Seriously, just replace the Constitution with the Bible in your post and the tenor remains basically the same.

    Good things can come from ideas and concepts outside of the Constitution. And just because something is in the Constitution doesn't mean it's good. Stop worshiping this thing, it's getting kinda weird.
    i think the founding fathers were knowlegable enough to study the effects of the english civil war, mainly the failed attempt at creating a republican government to replace king charles the first. that republic became a millitary dictatorship under Oliver cromwell.

    cromwell is a example of why we do not want military dictatorships.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    It most certainly allows the president to refuse to enforce the law its unconstitutional. The oath of office is quite clear on that, which is in the constitution.
    Only the Supreme Court can decide to abolish a law for it's unconstitutionality.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    No, the military is under oath to defend the Constitution but unlike what many people think that doesn't mean their personal interpretation of the Constitution. .
    the military is obligated to overthrow the govt if the govt is violating the constitution or if the govt is making its own personal interpretation of the constitution.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    its nice to be back at the "normal" state where most liberals are comfortable expressing their hatred towards the military. Sucks when you have to pretend to support them.

    The military as an entity has been very 'progressive'. It's populated by a majority of citizens willing to serve and in many cases put themselves in the line of fire for civilians. Do we have some turds? Sure...the military isn't immune to the dregs of society.

    Let me guess...you think colleges are the bastion of culture and progress in modern society...right?
    It's no longer in vogue to respect our servicemen.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i think the founding fathers were knowlegable enough to study the effects of the english civil war, mainly the failed attempt at creating a republican government to replace king charles the first. that republic became a millitary dictatorship under Oliver cromwell.

    cromwell is a example of why we do not want military dictatorships.
    What evidence have you seen that leads you to believe that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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