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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    And further, to fight with whatever power they had at hand to oppose those who attempt to carry out such an operation.

    The oath is to uphold the constitution, and to defend it against all enemies, foreign or domestic. Any public servant, be it a soldier, a policeman, a judge, a legislator, or whatever; who violates the Constitution, is that enemy.
    That's exactly right! Thank you for adding that, Bob!
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    So at this point you think an armed rebellion is in order?
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    Absolutely. Willfully and maliciously so.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    So at this point you think an armed rebellion is in order?
    Unfortunately, too much of our populace has become too complacent, docile, and cowardly to carry out such a rebellion, but yes, I think it is way overdue.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    From the conservatives I know, and I know a lot, you are not alone. Kinda scary really. Exactly what laws do you think Obama has broken?
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    Unfortunately, too much of our populace has become too complacent, docile, and cowardly to carry out such a rebellion, but yes, I think it is way overdue.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    From the conservatives I know, and I know a lot, you are not alone. Kinda scary really. Exactly what laws do you think Obama has broken?
    For many conservatives it's just not what Obama has done but is the major increase in Federal power since the civil war under both Republican and Democrat administrations. Obama is the just the current layer on the cake.

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    There's two problems so many people have

    #1- They think their personal interpretation of the Constitution is objectively correct, and other interpretations are objectively wrong, and so they have some leeway to force their opinion on others under the banner of "protecting the Constitution".
    #2- They believe the Constitution to be some infallible document that couldn't just be flat out wrong, either through commission or omission. Any constitution anywhere is just a means to an end. It's the end itself.
    However, if the Constitution was unlawfully amended, or dissolved, the military would be obligated by it's oath to protect the American people from violations of their rights.

    Say the government decided to ignore the 1st Amendment and censor, or shut down every media outlet in the country. It would be our military's duty not only to refuse to obey the order to enforce such a shutdown, but to use their personal initiative to protect the press from such a shutdown being enforced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    For many conservatives it's just not what Obama has done but is the major increase in Federal power since the civil war under both Republican and Democrat administrations. Obama is the just the current layer on the cake.
    To me, the serious beginning was in the 1930s, under FDR. It's a trend that has continued since then. Obama hasn't really done much new, other than to be much more brazen about it than any of his predecessors; in pushing harder for more illegitimate government power, while making little pretense of respecting the Constitution at all.
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    From the conservatives I know, and I know a lot, you are not alone. Kinda scary really. Exactly what laws do you think Obama has broken?
    The president doesn't have the authority to change laws at will, nor the authority to decide which laws will be enforced and which ones won't. That's a violation of the Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Military leaders are some real dumb asses. Not good for independent thought or analysis. There are few exceptions. Yessir. Nosir. How high Sir.
    Ignorance. They're more educated than the average person.

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    Re: If the military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    However, if the Constitution was unlawfully amended, or dissolved, the military would be obligated by it's oath to protect the American people from violations of their rights.

    Say the government decided to ignore the 1st Amendment and censor, or shut down every media outlet in the country. It would be our military's duty not only to refuse to obey the order to enforce such a shutdown, but to use their personal initiative to protect the press from such a shutdown being enforced.
    You'd have to have a consensus agreement that the government ignored it, first. Almost hundred years ago people thought it did. Now we accept it.
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