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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    He at one point took an oath when he was mil. I never took that oath, you never took that oath. For that, he should hold himself to a higher standard (towards the American people), and he has. He didn't obey people that were giving orders that violated the rights of Americans. He informed Americans that these powers were in fact spying on them regularly, unjustifiably, with complete impunity. There is no accountability, and he decided enough was enough. Good for him. He kept his oath. More than most can say, most can't even keep a promise (cough president cough)
    I never took that oath? Are you sure?

    He's a traitor, dude lol
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    It's fair to assume that you have no problem with peace officers, whoops this is 2013 'boston strong' days...they are law enforcement now, looking like this as well?



    I feel safer already

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I never took that oath? Are you sure?

    He's a traitor, dude lol
    I'm 99% sure you didn't.

    If you did, check out the OathKeepers. Maybe you'll remember it. https://oathkeepers.org/oath/

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    I'm 99% sure you didn't.

    If you did, check out the OathKeepers. Maybe you'll remember it. https://oathkeepers.org/oath/
    lol of course I'm not an oathkeeper, I'm not retarded. The military oath, though...
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    It's fair to assume that you have no problem with peace officers, whoops this is 2013 'boston strong' days...they are law enforcement now, looking like this as well?



    I feel safer already
    Nope. No problem. It's called the democratization of violence. Cops need to worry about it, too.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Nope. No problem. It's called the democratization of violence. Cops need to worry about it, too.
    Jesus christ man. If that picture doesn't bother you, I don't know what to say.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Jesus christ man. If that picture doesn't bother you, I don't know what to say.
    You didn't know what to say when you first stumbled into this thread, so at least you're consistent.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    You didn't know what to say when you first stumbled into this thread, so at least you're consistent.
    ? I said Snowden is a hero for taking his oath seriously and informing the people of America that their government is using 1984 as a guideline. I think I made myself perfectly clear.

    I can't believe that you're fine with police becoming militarized, citizens being spied on, and god knows what else.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    ? I said Snowden is a hero for taking his oath seriously and informing the people of America that their government is using 1984 as a guideline. I think I made myself perfectly clear.
    He didn't take his oath seriously. He lied and committed treason.

    I can't believe that you're fine with police becoming militarized,
    Why is this a problem?

    citizens being spied on,
    Who is being spied on? Do you mean phone metadata storage?

    and god knows what else.
    Yeah, all kinds of other things that you can imagine up and then be mad about.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    He didn't take his oath seriously. He lied and committed treason.

    Actually, he told the truth and honored his oath to uphold the constitution

    Why is this a problem?

    Because why the **** do police have mraps? Peace officers, not SS. I'm still dumbfounded by this one.

    Who is being spied on? Do you mean phone metadata storage?

    Oh yeah, just that minor detail of all your calls and texts being logged. No big deal. If you're not doing anything wrong, don't worry about it right? Someone get the sheep dog, they're running wild.

    Yeah, all kinds of other things that you can imagine up and then be mad about.
    Yeah, 10 years ago if I said there's a project in the works that will effectively kill the mobile communications privacy anyone in the country has, you'd tell me to put on a tinfoil hat. Here we are, and there it is. If they had this in the works, I'm sure this is the tip of the iceberg.

    I'm done. I don't even know what to say.
    Off topic, fair assumption that you're a cop, am I on point here?
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