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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    1) No. I am claiming that the law was not broken. It may well be an unconstitutional law, as many are, including gun control laws. Setting a precedent that one's "strong personal belief" that a law is unconstitutional means that breaking that law is OK is not a wise idea.

    2) In your opinion he was justified in releasing classified information that you deem to be harmless, or even his patriotic duty, because you were not aware of it. If you and folks of like mind are on his jury then his breaking of the law can be nullified by the jury.
    Yeah, about his would be trial. Then he could be held for 2+ years without trial like Manning, tortured, and given a secret trial. I'm sure the jury in that secret trial would use it as an opportunity to change the system. And you think I live in a dream world?
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Cant really say. I dont know that we really know what the 'real' story really is. But...

    The way our system of government work is that people that work in the government do NOT practice situational ethics. If what Snowden did, or what Manning did, or Aldrich Ames for that matter is overlooked or excused or justified, we really open ourselves up to chaos and potential anarchy. Imagine a military leadership that rather than following the orders of the leaders appointed over them decide instead to act based on what they perceive is right, moral, or unjust. How well does that work? How long?

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    If you think he didn't share things- much more than has been made public- with the Chinese and Russians, you're so gullible. Circumstantial evidence would indicate that was his goal- the entire point of what he did.

    Now, if you don't care about treason, then no biggie.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    He betrayed the US government, his employer...but not the American people.




    That statement SHOULD speak volumes, and be all that is needed to be said.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    If you think he didn't share things- much more than has been made public- with the Chinese and Russians, you're so gullible. Circumstantial evidence would indicate that was his goal- the entire point of what he did.

    Now, if you don't care about treason, then no biggie.

    More bath tub bubbles. Please post links to prove your accusations.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    More bath tub bubbles. Please post links to prove your accusations.
    lol hero worship. Why did he go to Hong Kong, again?
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    For those that think he was a hero for acting...how would you feel if the Joint Chiefs decided that, you know...this whole thing is a clear example of a government gone wild and they staged a coup, arrested Obama as head fo the NSA, and then forcibly took over the government until new elections could be held?

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    By exposing what he knew he betrayed his government but maybe not the people of the US an the world. So on the one hand he is a traitor for making secrets public and on the other hand he has made public some things the public should have been told ages ago and that makes him kind of a hero too.
    Kind of makes you think about whether treason is a crime against a govt. or the people of a country. If the govt. is doing the people wrong, is it treason to expose it?
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Snowden could have just given his information to a foreign government which would have made him a traitor. Instead he gave the information to the world. There was some sensitive information in his release that worsened our power in the world but not as much as Obama's foreign policy. Other information that affects us personally we now have thanks to his actions. I think the guy is 80% hero.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Snowden could have just given his information to a foreign government which would have made him a traitor.
    uhhhhhhhhhhh
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