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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Now you are resorting to putting words in my mouth.

    I apologize if I gave you the impression I care much what you think of Edward Snowden...because I don't; I was just having a little fun.

    We are done on this.


    Have a nice day.
    You dont care, yet you kept running your mouth.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i don't know what to think.

    on the one hand he is a hero for revealing the NSA's secrets. Yet i cannot honestly call him a hero because he fled to another country to avoid being caught. if he was proud of what he did, why did he run away instead of allowing himself to be caught?
    If he had been "caught", you wouldn't know even a tiny fraction of what you now know. Considering the court ruling today, it might be a good idea for some in power to be considering an amnesty for the man and allow him to return to the US along with the data he stole. If the administration was secretly acting contrary to the constitution, that's where courts should focus, not on the man who exposed it.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Not to get off topic, but how does someone make a poll on here? I clicked the option to make options but nothing showed up to allow me to do that.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    When did I say anything about butt hurt? The point is the majority of legal scholars agree with me, not you. Which would indicate that this isn't nearly as cut and dried as you'd like it to be and that you, in fact, are most likely wrong.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    When did I say anything about butt hurt? The point is the majority of legal scholars agree with me, not you. Which would indicate that this isn't nearly as cut and dried as you'd like it to be and that you, in fact, are most likely wrong.
    And a federal judge along with constitutional advocates agree with me. Plus common sense.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    And a federal judge along with constitutional advocates agree with me.
    Great. And the majority of them disagree. Did you just want to ignore that?

    Plus common sense.
    hahahahahahaha, it's too bad that's not reality for you, isn't it?
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    Not to get off topic, but how does someone make a poll on here? I clicked the option to make options but nothing showed up to allow me to do that.
    Someone please answer my question.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Great. And the majority of them disagree. Did you just want to ignore that?



    hahahahahahaha, it's too bad that's not reality for you, isn't it?
    What is legal about obtaining personal records of people without a warrant? Monitoring phone calls, etc. If you were to do that you would be thrown in jail. Nowhere in the Constitution does it outline the government rights to private information except in the 4th amendment which protects against search and seizure of said information.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    At one point in time, he took an oath.

    His oath went a little something like this:

    I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God

    He upheld that oath. For that, he's a hero (and he has more testicular fortitude than most). He has no allegiance to the government, just the American people and the constitution. "We the people".
    He's no fricking hero. He was a civilian contractor, not a government employee or an active duty member of the military. He DID take an oath, however, to safeguard and protect the information he was entrusted with in order to help keep America and her citizens safe. He betrayed that oath and those he worked with because he's a self-absorbed whiner with an overly-exaggerated sense of self-importance. There is not an ounce of honest "servant" in that little turd, and we know that because (oh, and this is important), the information he is sharing and has shared has often had nothing whatsoever to do with the civil liberties of U.S. Citizens, and he instead took massive amounts of critical data to China and Russia, who are no friends of civil liberties or anything that smacks of people having authority over their government, and who most assuredly have it now.

    Snowden isn't a hero. He's a fool who is now the tool of Russian foreign policy. When they are done using him to try to screw the U.S., they will discard him like a used condom.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If he had been "caught", you wouldn't know even a tiny fraction of what you now know. Considering the court ruling today, it might be a good idea for some in power to be considering an amnesty for the man and allow him to return to the US along with the data he stole.
    Sadly, we live in a digital age where data is rapidly replicable and fungible. Everything Snowden took is already lost, and will be released to the public whenever Putin deems it most advantageous.

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