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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    After all, he gave the oath of nondisclosure of proprietary information.
    Just now saw your reply.

    And the President also took an office.

    “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God."

    It doesn't sound like the President is preserving, protecting, nor defending the Constitution of the United States. He violated his oath of office.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    I was raised 3 years ago. What's wrong with being a mason? My lodge is loaded with great people.
    Masons/Freemasons are part of the Illuminati. I know the requirements are that you have to be 18, believe in a supreme being, and have 3 people attest to your character.

    JFK warned America about those secret societies. Then they killed him like a day later.

    Once you masons reach level 17, you are required to renounce Jesus, and drink goat's blood. Goat being a symbol of the devil.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    There is a right to privacy. It's called the 4th Amendment.
    It's a right against unreasonable search and seizure. Not privacy. It's not like the word didn't exist back then, if they meant to use privacy, they would've. They didn't.
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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Edward Snowden... today. (15 December 2013)

    Now that some time has passed, and we have had a chance to view some of the ramifications of his actions, and how the government has reacted, how do you view Edward Snowden today?

    Hero? Traitor? Somewhere in between?

    Does your view of him today vary from your initial view after he first released documents?
    Still a hero. The sort of Patriot the Republic was founded on.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    It's a right against unreasonable search and seizure. Not privacy. It's not like the word didn't exist back then, if they meant to use privacy, they would've. They didn't.
    But they didn't have digital data and communication. Property, person, papers, and effects covered everything and still does. Just because tech evolved doesn't mean the government assumes all innate control over the new tech.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    Masons/Freemasons are part of the Illuminati. I know the requirements are that you have to be 18, believe in a supreme being, and have 3 people attest to your character.

    JFK warned America about those secret societies. Then they killed him like a day later.

    Once you masons reach level 17, you are required to renounce Jesus, and drink goat's blood. Goat being a symbol of the devil.
    Christians drink the blood of Christ and eat his flesh. No?

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    Masons/Freemasons are part of the Illuminati. I know the requirements are that you have to be 18, believe in a supreme being, and have 3 people attest to your character.

    JFK warned America about those secret societies. Then they killed him like a day later.

    Once you masons reach level 17, you are required to renounce Jesus, and drink goat's blood. Goat being a symbol of the devil.
    Awww man, I really want to be a Mason now.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Christians drink the blood of Christ and eat his flesh. No?
    Yes. But that's because Jesus told us to. It's accepting the body of Christ.

    People need to accept the body of Christ. Not the body of satan.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    Yes. But that's because Jesus told us to. It's accepting the body of Christ.

    People need to accept the body of Christ. Not the body of satan.
    Because he said so? So? What if Satan said to drink goats blood? I mean if we're doing stupid things just because fictional characters told us to...

    How about nobody engages in cannibalism? Wouldn't that be better?

    Also, do you have a source for your claims about the Masons?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Edward Snowden... today.

    he is a hero, but the things he shared were already pretty much known in the world, he just elightened us on the details

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