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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The most bigoted phrase you can use is "people like you."

    No one is like you, or like me. We're unique individuals.
    He didn't direct it at me specifically, no. But it was pretty clear, "those people" who disagree with affirmative action or believe in consequences for ones behavior are clearly "colorblind racists." That's what I meant by "people like me."

    By the way, for some clarification, the "colorblind racist" was a different discussion a week or two later in the semester.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    HELL NO, it's not suppressing free speech. What's wrong with you people, you are trying to do EXACTLY what you accuse other people of doing. Get a ****ing life.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    He started going off about how the latest form of disenfranchisement of minorities is disenfranchisement of felons and how this was the "new Jim Crow." To which I said "but they are felons....." (Enter rant about racism here).

    Felonies have been diluted so much that I don't support the lifelong punishment that goes along with them anymore. As for your professor, while I agree with him, it sounds like he doesn't handle opposing views very well. Still, your freedom of speech was not suppressed.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    What I'm talking about is that some asshole at work can no longer feel safe telling me racist or homophobic jokes by the water cooler. I'm fairly stoked about that.
    I have a good friend who is lesbian, and you should hear some of the gay jokes she tells! Taken in the wrong way and told by somebody who doesn't like gay people, they could be construed as homophobic -- quite definitely so. Told with affection, and with a sense of poking gentle fun, though, and some of the same jokes are funny as all get up.

    Maybe it all lies in the delivery as well as the source, but I'd hate to toss out the baby with the bathwater by overzealous vigilance.
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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I have a good friend who is lesbian, and you should hear some of the gay jokes she tells! Taken in the wrong way and told by somebody who doesn't like gay people, they could be construed as homophobic -- quite definitely so. Told with affection, and with a sense of poking gentle fun, though, and some of the same jokes are funny as all get up.

    Maybe it all lies in the delivery as well as the source, but I'd hate to toss out the baby with the bathwater by overzealous vigilance.
    Also, if you don't like what someone is saying, there's the option to walk away or leave.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Unless PC is enforced by the government, it has nothing at all to do with the Freedom of Expression. Free speech means you can express yourself how you wish (with reasonable restrictions such as not yelling fire in a crowded theater) without fear of fines or imprisonment from the government. It does not mean you can say something offensive and expect to keep your job with a private entity, or expect others to not be offended or speak out themselves against what you said. The PC crap gets on my nerves just like it does with most people, but in 99.999% of cases, PC backlash has nothing at all to do with infringement on freedom of expression.
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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'd have to hear a specific example of it. Usually political correctness isn't enforced by law, but rather by public opinion. If you want to say, make racist comments, you have the ability to do so, but do expect to be fired and or cussed out.
    And that's why it's not supressing anything.


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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I wouldn't say it is "suppressing free speech" because that implies a formal force (the police, the state, etc.) actively punishing people for what they say or do.

    I would say that it is "silencing the debate" because it often times is used by those who want to silence any opposition to what they have to say either by shaming them personally, or tainting their image in the eyes of others.
    I agree. A better term would be that it discourages free speech.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I have a good friend who is lesbian, and you should hear some of the gay jokes she tells! Taken in the wrong way and told by somebody who doesn't like gay people, they could be construed as homophobic -- quite definitely so. Told with affection, and with a sense of poking gentle fun, though, and some of the same jokes are funny as all get up.

    Maybe it all lies in the delivery as well as the source, but I'd hate to toss out the baby with the bathwater by overzealous vigilance.
    we aren't talking about legislating some suppression of speech. we're talking about the fact that now somebody doesn't feel comfortable sitting down at the bar next to me and telling me a bunch of anti-black or anti-semitic jokes. in my area, that's real progress.

    sure, some people take it too far. however, i still feel that pushing that kind of ignorant nonsense out of polite conversation is a significant net benefit.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    In case somebody needs refreshment of definitions:

    Political correctness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, what's your say?

    P.S. Sorry for the mistakes in the title. Still drinking my morning coffee.
    When backed with coercive measures (for example, the laws against offending people in Canada or Great Britain), then yes.

    Simply as a social stigma, however, no.

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