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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What term is racist? Black person or African American?
    It's usually intent, not the specific words, that is bigoted. That's why black people can call each other nigger and white people can't. That's why gays can call each other faggot and straight people can't. Because you never mean to express a kind sentiment when you're talking about someone who's not like you and you think those words best express your point. If what you want is a checklist of approved and unapproved words, you're missing the point entirely.
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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I was just making a point to your statement.

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    This isn't really accurate. That's all...
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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    "Political correctness", or any other parameters used to judge the word choices of others, are not an infringement on free speech unless they are codified into law.

    We have accepted some limitations on free speech, like the oft-used example of shouting "fire!" in a crowded theater.
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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Those who rail against the concept of political correctness the most are generally those most guilty of it. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and not call them duplicitous, but they are at least blind to their own actions and motivations.
    As always... maybe for some.

    For many, including me, political correctness is about some people telling others what they can and can't say... and if you say what they say you can't, then you are a racist, bigot, sexist, one that lacks courtesy, etc. I think that those telling me what is OK to say are the oppressive jerks using their morality to judge others.
    Actually, you are correct and my post was incorrect.

    When I wrote that I thought it meant to convey what I wanted to convey, but when I re-read it the next day I realized that I had phrased it so poorly as to come off as being the opposite of what I wanted. I intended to go back and post a correction, but never did.

    If the three people who 'liked' my post want to go back and withdraw their likes, I will understand.
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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    At college I had a similar experience. The professor was teaching about Institutionalized Whiteness and how it makes all white people racist by default. Well, I had the temerity to disagree. I was immediately set upon by the black professor and two black students. I was literally yelled at by the two in class. The professor eventually stepped back and just seemed so content. I tried a few times to be reasonable but it was futile. After about ten minutes of idiocy I just left. They taunted me with insults about race and morality. I withdrew from the course that day.
    The professor and the two black students were obviously the racists in that incident.
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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    At college I had a similar experience. The professor was teaching about Institutionalized Whiteness and how it makes all white people racist by default. Well, I had the temerity to disagree. I was immediately set upon by the black professor and two black students. I was literally yelled at by the two in class. The professor eventually stepped back and just seemed so content. I tried a few times to be reasonable but it was futile. After about ten minutes of idiocy I just left. They taunted me with insults about race and morality. I withdrew from the course that day.
    The only real thing you can do is laugh at how someone who is supposed to be teaching about "open minded and seeing other points of view" is really fostering an environment of close mindedness and dogmatic reactions to current events, no matter what evidence to the contrary.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It's usually intent, not the specific words, that is bigoted. That's why black people can call each other nigger and white people can't. That's why gays can call each other faggot and straight people can't. Because you never mean to express a kind sentiment when you're talking about someone who's not like you and you think those words best express your point. If what you want is a checklist of approved and unapproved words, you're missing the point entirely.
    Except what you just said boils down to a checklist of approved words. The N word is approved for some but not others no matter what the intent was, is what you just said.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    how would we "forbid" them?

    seems to work pretty well the way it is. if racist idiots spout racism, they get labeled as racist idiots, and then nobody gives a **** about anything else they have to say. works for me.
    And does calling people out when they misappropriate the word "racist" also work got you?

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It's usually intent, not the specific words, that is bigoted. That's why black people can call each other nigger and white people can't. That's why gays can call each other faggot and straight people can't. Because you never mean to express a kind sentiment when you're talking about someone who's not like you and you think those words best express your point. If what you want is a checklist of approved and unapproved words, you're missing the point entirely.
    Then you advocate the chaos from virtually unlimited individual sensitivities.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Is Political Correctnes a form of supressing Free Speach?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Then you advocate the chaos from virtually unlimited individual sensitivities.
    Rules allow people to know what not to say.

    This is bad.
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