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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Try reading again. The topic is the dangers of micro-organisms that are invasive. Let me explain what "invasive" means, since clearly you don't understand what that means.

    "Invasive species" means that it is a species of life - micro-organism, plant, fish, animal - that is not natural to the area. For that reason, there is no evolved safeguards within nature to keep that species in check. The result frequently is the "invasive" species destroys indigenous species and can severely harm the ecosystem. "Ecosystem" means the living life environment.

    Pause for a moment and then read this again, since those are difficult concepts for some people to understand.

    In light of that, the topic is not whether "indigenous" peoples to the Americas were good or bad. So I will sidestep your simplistic comment on "indigenous" people of the Americas as if they were all one big tribe all acting the same and the same people. Rather, that diseases brought from the West that were not indigenous to the Americas resulted in literal genocide of peoples to the East, as significant as causing extinction of entire human races and massive deaths among others.

    This is getting really complicated, huh? Sorry, I can't draw crayon pictures on the forum to help you understand this high school level complexity. So pause again and read back over it.

    Thus, the topic was not your debating old cowboy-and-indian movies and your support of the cowboys. But you'd probably enjoy starting a thread on the topic elsewhere. The topic is the potential danger of bringing invasive micro-organism from elsewhere than earth, since time and again scientific organizations have stated they have discovered "alien" micro-organisms both on the moon, fossils of micro-organisms in meteorites, and the base elements for the formation of micro-organisms.

    Granted, you might be a religious zealot who believes that a God make the entire universe singularly for humans and limited life in the universe to earth. You might want to start a topic of that on the Religion Board and possibly would feel more at home there.

    Finally, along the long and confusing to you reasoning, the topic is whether there is a danger of bringing an "alien" micro-organism from "space" to earth that is destructive of humans and/or other life forms on earth for which there is no evolved safeguards. Again, you may wish to argue against evolution on the Religion board.

    Oh, "alien" in the above paragraph does not mean illegal immigrants. I don't want to confuse you more than your message declares you are. "Alien" in the above paragraph means "not from earth." Since the topic is traveling away from earth and returning material not from earth to earth, "alien" is used in that context.

    Pause again, read all of this over again - as this is getting quite long for you and involves more than a single summary statement.

    In the context of the above (if you do not understand "context" as I use it here let me know and I will TRY to explain it to you), people of the West brought "invasive" species of micro-organisms that were deadly to many races of humans who had no evolved natural defenses against it, despite being human. However, because they were human, some peoples of some of those races survived. As "alien" micro-organisms are both invasive and alien, it is possible that human life and/or other life on earth would have no direct nor indirect evolved safeguards against such a mirco-organism if it is harmful. The result could be the extinction of the human race.

    The response that other member gave to the possible sudden extinction of the human race and/or other species on earth was essentially that he believes we should risk extinction of the human race and any or all other life on earth included for the excitement of taking that risk.

    ^ That is the topic in relation to Indigenous Americans.
    Condensing your post it boils down to: Their might be space microbes---->they might come back to Earth----->they might be bad---->don't go to space.

    We've recognized the possibility since the dawn of the space program which is why the Apollo astronauts had to be quarantined before being allowed to leave the mobile quarantine facility. It was considered highly unlikely then and just as unlikely today that exobiological pathogens exist in the Solar System, moreover that such pathogens exist and are a threat to humanity is even lower. As a result we've taken precautions for this extremely outside risk and forged ahead. This is permanently self-limiting logic. The same could be said of drilling into the Earth, we don't know what kind of extremophiles could be down there that have had little to no contact with the rest of our biological habitat and thus could be potentially take the form of an aggressive microbial species or rampant pathogen. Both of this is extremely unlikely however and the benefits vastly outweigh the almost implausible risks.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    If they are going to do it they need to first send a lot of people and resources there first.

    ALSO, these land rover things they send there, they need to send ways for them to grow plants there. I don't think there's a lot of oxygen on mars. And not sure about the water there.

    Then again, if they do all the math and send so many supplies AND resources there - for everyone's lifetime and more - then they could possibly be alright.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Would it be legal for anyone going on the trip to pray out loud before takeoff?

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Would it be legal for anyone going on the trip to pray out loud before takeoff?
    Why wouldn't it be?

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'm sure there are a few people in this forum that wish I would sign up for this but really I just can't imagine. Apparently there is no shortage of applicants though. Beats the hell outa me why.


    "An ambitious project that aims to send volunteers on a one-way trip to Mars unveiled plans for the first private unmanned mission to the Red Planet Tuesday, a robotic vanguard to human colonization that will launch in 2018.

    Mars One invited anyone over age 18 to apply to be an astronaut. About 165,000 people answered the first call for applications, which closed at the end of August. There will be four rounds of selection before the finalists are chosen.


    Mars One unveils first stage of plan to colonize Red Planet | Fox News


    EDIT: FREAKIN insane
    I would like to sign up all Washington's politicians, they asked me to do this for them, I will provide you with their written request statements later, it's classified until they land on Mars.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Would there be cable when I got there?

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