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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    It worked out not only for him, but for Western Civilization in general, anyway. What's the problem?

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    In general I agree with what you are saying here.

    I'll just add that Columbus's trips to the America's did not end up too well for a lot of Native Americans.

    But it doesn't look like there are any Martians, so that shouldn't be a problem on Mars.

    Suit up and get aboard!

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That's my point.

    A person let's their home go to hell, a real rat-trap. Leaking roof, termites, plumbing leaking, a/c out, carpet rotted thru, yard dead but for weeds, and the lack of maintenance causing quicker deterioration. All this in part for laziness, in part for being a daydream always pursuing some other project and in part or lack of money for all spent on daydreaming and other projects...

    For which the person decides, "you know what would be really cool? Let' finance a beach front house in San Diego. Sure, the payments will be huge, but we'll make them somehow. Then sometimes we can get out of this rat-trap and go stay there on holidays and for vacation. That'd be great!"

    And the wife says: "Why can't we FIRST fix up our house?! We can't afford to buy a beach front house in San Diego anyway. Why won't you just FIX OUR HOME!"

    Husband: "Where's your spirit of adventure? Your hope for the future? Can't you see us spending Christmas on our beautiful beach in San Diego! Why do you have to always be so negative! So down on everything? Plus we can rent it out when not there and MAKE money on it! I'm certain of it. The realtor who'd get his commission told me so.""

    That's what we're reading here. Total neglect of what must be attended to and can be done, for a pipe dream to avoid those obligations and necessities.

    It annoys me, greatly, because there are a great many things that need be done, plus very real usable scientific, medical, engineering, physics and even astrophysics research going on, and there is no extra $$$ laying around for a multi-trillion dollar space project that is premature at least by a couple decades.
    You are correct in a lot of ways your assessment, especially if public money was proposed to be spent on such a project which I myself would oppose, adamantly so I might add. However if it were a project undertaken by private individuals, then I would be all for it. I prefer to stay on Earth myself if I could get away from all the do gooders feasibly. Unfortunately on this planet that can no longer be accomplished. I would undertake such a project to escape their predations and to live life freely. The technology required to live off planet allows that freedom hence my keenness on pursuing it.
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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What would REALLY work swell would be to bust up an asteroid after using solar sails to alter it's course and speed slightly, so the shotgun effect of all the smaller pieces would obliterate some country, say like N. Korea. Then we could mine the material there on earth. We could use the troops we previously had on the border to do the mining. Thereafter N. Korea would be the new collection site. Sure, a lot would burn up on entry, but it's not like there'd be a shortage.

    Should run that by the military. Get the military behind a plan and it's gonna happen. I bet no one would mess with the USA after that, huh?
    That would be a waste of material as most would burn up in the atmosphere. Changing orbits of material you would use elsewhere is also pointless.
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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    What I wonder is what happens when this company goes bankrupt, who supplies the Martians then? I'll tell you who, the American tax payers.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    That would be a waste of material as most would burn up in the atmosphere. Changing orbits of material you would use elsewhere is also pointless.

    It was satire.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It was satire.
    So was my comment.
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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    You are correct in a lot of ways your assessment, especially if public money was proposed to be spent on such a project which I myself would oppose, adamantly so I might add. However if it were a project undertaken by private individuals, then I would be all for it. I prefer to stay on Earth myself if I could get away from all the do gooders feasibly. Unfortunately on this planet that can no longer be accomplished. I would undertake such a project to escape their predations and to live life freely. The technology required to live off planet allows that freedom hence my keenness on pursuing it.
    If it is a private project that'd be great. And if as profitable as claimed I'm sure people will line up to invest big money.

    It'd also make a pretty good scam someone could run on investors.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You brought up Columbus and declared it was great for Western civilization. Since you trivial literal genocide of entire races of people and mass slaughter in South, Central and North America, there is nothing to say other than again stating that Columbus did not sail off just to see what was out there. He sailed for India - and failed. In addition to mass genocide and extinctions of human races - a OK with you apparently - the result also was many, many wars.

    The Americas was going nowhere and America was already inhabited. So really what you are congratulating is mass genocide, extinctions and wars that benefited your race at the expense of others - and - to be specific - including mine. "Your Western Civilization" warred and slaughtered my people - although technically mine were the only ones to never surrender (to this day) nor defeated. So "Columbus" is the LEAST persuasive example you can give to me.

    Notably, you ignored the dangers of biological contamination devastating life on earth, including human life - but then you have made it clear extinction of humans doesn't matter to you. Only the thrill of risk-taking. And if that risks killing everyone and everything it's even better, because what a THRILLING risk that is, huh?

    It is not "stodgy" for my taking the position of save our planet, care for our planet, and harvest from our planet first. However, since you seem to not care about the prospect of mass death or even extinction of the human race, there's not much response to give. There is another member of the forum who also has no problem with the extinction of the human race (for being disorderly, not for the sake of curiousity and visions of somehow obtaining vast wealth out-there - like a crazed gold prospect certain there's gold to be had for free in California where everyone supposedly gets rich.)

    You don't have a plan. You have a movie script, like thousands of other movie scripts about space.
    You probably shouldnt get your 'history' from books that come with crayons and how to draw guides. Oh...wait...you think prior to Columbus' arrival, the indigenous people were peaceful and did NOT go around slaughtering each other. You think it was the Euro settlers that were evil. Pray tell...why do mejicans speak Spanish today? Was than a natural evolution of the Mayan language?

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    In general I agree with what you are saying here.

    I'll just add that Columbus's trips to the America's did not end up too well for a lot of Native Americans.

    But it doesn't look like there are any Martians, so that shouldn't be a problem on Mars.

    Suit up and get aboard!
    Prior to Columbus' (and others ) arrival the indigenous folk were not a happy band of land loving hippies. They were warring, brutal, fought and slaughtered one another, seized property, took slaves, in some cases practiced cannibalism, and for their era, were horrible to the land and environment. Europeans simply were better armed, better prepared, more advanced. In short...they did the same things...only better.

    I dont know if the Mars trip would actually take place...but I can see a whole lot of people that might be less than thrilled with their current existence or prospects of a future that might think...man...what an experience..and willingly sign up and go.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'm sure there are a few people in this forum that wish I would sign up for this but really I just can't imagine. Apparently there is no shortage of applicants though. Beats the hell outa me why.


    "An ambitious project that aims to send volunteers on a one-way trip to Mars unveiled plans for the first private unmanned mission to the Red Planet Tuesday, a robotic vanguard to human colonization that will launch in 2018.

    Mars One invited anyone over age 18 to apply to be an astronaut. About 165,000 people answered the first call for applications, which closed at the end of August. There will be four rounds of selection before the finalists are chosen.


    Mars One unveils first stage of plan to colonize Red Planet | Fox News


    EDIT: FREAKIN insane
    I wouldn't go, because I like being comfortable and I'm addicted to the internet. (Oh and I have a family )

    The idea of this happening however makes me giddy as a school girl. I'm however unsure about the seriousness of Mars One. Their website lists only a few employees.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You probably shouldnt get your 'history' from books that come with crayons and how to draw guides. Oh...wait...you think prior to Columbus' arrival, the indigenous people were peaceful and did NOT go around slaughtering each other. You think it was the Euro settlers that were evil. Pray tell...why do mejicans speak Spanish today? Was than a natural evolution of the Mayan language?
    Exactly, the Spaniards showed up to hand out hugs to the local populace, and to their surprise the natives ran up to them in and in perfect Spanish said "Si, Senor!"
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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