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Are you freamin insane?
"We all of us know down here that politics is a tough game. And I don't think there's any point in being Irish if you don't know that the world is going to break your heart eventually."-Daniel Patrick Moynihan, December 5, 1963
I didn't bring up Columbus. I just wanted to let it be known that he was an exploitative idiot asshole ... not the brave hero some would like to paint him as."**** happens."
Your argument doesn't even make sense here anyway, as there is no one to oppress or exploit in space. It is virgin territory, free for the taking.
Last edited by Buck Ewer; 12-12-13 at 09:51 PM.
"Men did not love Rome because she was great. She was great because they had loved her." -- G.K. Chesterton
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
War is not a tool to satisfy your emotional outbursts.
A person let's their home go to hell, a real rat-trap. Leaking roof, termites, plumbing leaking, a/c out, carpet rotted thru, yard dead but for weeds, and the lack of maintenance causing quicker deterioration. All this in part for laziness, in part for being a daydream always pursuing some other project and in part or lack of money for all spent on daydreaming and other projects...
For which the person decides, "you know what would be really cool? Let' finance a beach front house in San Diego. Sure, the payments will be huge, but we'll make them somehow. Then sometimes we can get out of this rat-trap and go stay there on holidays and for vacation. That'd be great!"
And the wife says: "Why can't we FIRST fix up our house?! We can't afford to buy a beach front house in San Diego anyway. Why won't you just FIX OUR HOME!"
Husband: "Where's your spirit of adventure? Your hope for the future? Can't you see us spending Christmas on our beautiful beach in San Diego! Why do you have to always be so negative! So down on everything? Plus we can rent it out when not there and MAKE money on it! I'm certain of it. The realtor who'd get his commission told me so.""
That's what we're reading here. Total neglect of what must be attended to and can be done, for a pipe dream to avoid those obligations and necessities.
It annoys me, greatly, because there are a great many things that need be done, plus very real usable scientific, medical, engineering, physics and even astrophysics research going on, and there is no extra $$$ laying around for a multi-trillion dollar space project that is premature at least by a couple decades.
Last edited by joko104; 12-12-13 at 11:14 PM.
The Americas was going nowhere and America was already inhabited. So really what you are congratulating is mass genocide, extinctions and wars that benefited your race at the expense of others - and - to be specific - including mine. "Your Western Civilization" warred and slaughtered my people - although technically mine were the only ones to never surrender (to this day) nor defeated. So "Columbus" is the LEAST persuasive example you can give to me.
Notably, you ignored the dangers of biological contamination devastating life on earth, including human life - but then you have made it clear extinction of humans doesn't matter to you. Only the thrill of risk-taking. And if that risks killing everyone and everything it's even better, because what a THRILLING risk that is, huh?
It is not "stodgy" for my taking the position of save our planet, care for our planet, and harvest from our planet first. However, since you seem to not care about the prospect of mass death or even extinction of the human race, there's not much response to give. There is another member of the forum who also has no problem with the extinction of the human race (for being disorderly, not for the sake of curiousity and visions of somehow obtaining vast wealth out-there - like a crazed gold prospect certain there's gold to be had for free in California where everyone supposedly gets rich.)
You don't have a plan. You have a movie script, like thousands of other movie scripts about space.
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