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    Re: One way trip to Mars

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If it's unrealistic, it won't happen. Again, I fail to see the problem.



    Who says that it has to be "taken" from anywhere? This is a private venture we are talking about here, not a public trust.
    It will be taken from somewhere, private or public, but the money will be spent here on Earth so the money will be back in the economy, but we don't know where.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    "**** happens."

    Your argument doesn't even make sense here anyway, as there is no one to oppress or exploit in space. It is virgin territory, free for the taking.
    I didn't bring up Columbus. I just wanted to let it be known that he was an exploitative idiot asshole ... not the brave hero some would like to paint him as.
    Last edited by Buck Ewer; 12-12-13 at 10:51 PM.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It will be taken from somewhere, private or public, but the money will be spent here on Earth so the money will be back in the economy, but we don't know where.
    Exactly. At the very worst, even a failed project could still provide employment for thousands.

    It could also serve to advance technologies and fields of study which could prove to be useful in other areas of our society.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I didn't bring up Columbus. I just wanted to let it be known that he was an exploitative idiot asshole ... not a brave hero.
    All explorers before and after were the same.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'm sure there are a few people in this forum that wish I would sign up for this but really I just can't imagine. Apparently there is no shortage of applicants though. Beats the hell outa me why.


    "An ambitious project that aims to send volunteers on a one-way trip to Mars unveiled plans for the first private unmanned mission to the Red Planet Tuesday, a robotic vanguard to human colonization that will launch in 2018.

    Mars One invited anyone over age 18 to apply to be an astronaut. About 165,000 people answered the first call for applications, which closed at the end of August. There will be four rounds of selection before the finalists are chosen.


    Mars One unveils first stage of plan to colonize Red Planet | Fox News


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    personally i would want to go to maybe the second colony to the planet. The first will just be getting started and will be like a test prep for the second, and will likely have alot of problems.
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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I like your point Joko about where are they willing to take the trillions from to pay for this pipe dream to mars. Scientific research? Healthcare? Defense? Food production?
    Just because they got a hard-on watching Star Trek as kids they think we have to go somewhere else, just because we can.
    To boldly go where no man... blah blah blah...while home planet needs some tender loving care right here right now.
    A colony in the Sahara would not need to bring air or cosmic ray protection and the trip and support missions there would be a tiny fraction of the cost. Who knows what we could learn about expanding the habitability of our home turf? Who knows what riches could be discovered at the bottom of the Marianas trench if we dared to dive that deep and take a really good look?
    But there is no sense in trying to teach pragmatism to the starry eyed science fantasy dreamers.
    They all want to beam up with Kirk and Spock...
    That's my point.

    A person let's their home go to hell, a real rat-trap. Leaking roof, termites, plumbing leaking, a/c out, carpet rotted thru, yard dead but for weeds, and the lack of maintenance causing quicker deterioration. All this in part for laziness, in part for being a daydream always pursuing some other project and in part or lack of money for all spent on daydreaming and other projects...

    For which the person decides, "you know what would be really cool? Let' finance a beach front house in San Diego. Sure, the payments will be huge, but we'll make them somehow. Then sometimes we can get out of this rat-trap and go stay there on holidays and for vacation. That'd be great!"

    And the wife says: "Why can't we FIRST fix up our house?! We can't afford to buy a beach front house in San Diego anyway. Why won't you just FIX OUR HOME!"

    Husband: "Where's your spirit of adventure? Your hope for the future? Can't you see us spending Christmas on our beautiful beach in San Diego! Why do you have to always be so negative! So down on everything? Plus we can rent it out when not there and MAKE money on it! I'm certain of it. The realtor who'd get his commission told me so.""

    That's what we're reading here. Total neglect of what must be attended to and can be done, for a pipe dream to avoid those obligations and necessities.

    It annoys me, greatly, because there are a great many things that need be done, plus very real usable scientific, medical, engineering, physics and even astrophysics research going on, and there is no extra $$$ laying around for a multi-trillion dollar space project that is premature at least by a couple decades.
    Last edited by joko104; 12-13-13 at 12:14 AM.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    No one says that we cannot do both. Again, there is simply no reason for the hostility here.

    Why do you object so strongly to other people taking risks that you are either unwilling, or unable, to take yourself? It's doesn't affect you in the slightest one way or another.

    Frankly, your stodgy type makes up the majority in most societies anyway. The adventure prone are always a minority.



    "**** happens."

    Your argument doesn't even make sense here anyway, as there is no one to oppress or exploit in space. It is virgin territory, free for the taking.
    You brought up Columbus and declared it was great for Western civilization. Since you trivial literal genocide of entire races of people and mass slaughter in South, Central and North America, there is nothing to say other than again stating that Columbus did not sail off just to see what was out there. He sailed for India - and failed. In addition to mass genocide and extinctions of human races - a OK with you apparently - the result also was many, many wars.

    The Americas was going nowhere and America was already inhabited. So really what you are congratulating is mass genocide, extinctions and wars that benefited your race at the expense of others - and - to be specific - including mine. "Your Western Civilization" warred and slaughtered my people - although technically mine were the only ones to never surrender (to this day) nor defeated. So "Columbus" is the LEAST persuasive example you can give to me.

    Notably, you ignored the dangers of biological contamination devastating life on earth, including human life - but then you have made it clear extinction of humans doesn't matter to you. Only the thrill of risk-taking. And if that risks killing everyone and everything it's even better, because what a THRILLING risk that is, huh?

    It is not "stodgy" for my taking the position of save our planet, care for our planet, and harvest from our planet first. However, since you seem to not care about the prospect of mass death or even extinction of the human race, there's not much response to give. There is another member of the forum who also has no problem with the extinction of the human race (for being disorderly, not for the sake of curiousity and visions of somehow obtaining vast wealth out-there - like a crazed gold prospect certain there's gold to be had for free in California where everyone supposedly gets rich.)

    You don't have a plan. You have a movie script, like thousands of other movie scripts about space.
    Last edited by joko104; 12-13-13 at 12:17 AM.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

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